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Well call it my good deed for the day - getting delldays to renounce his planning of revenge attacks on women.

Certainly what? Certainly stop threatening women? Good - finally. Now carry on.

Why? The problem with the knee-jerking on here is that the behaviour being encouraged is exactly that likely to lead to an escalation of trouble. Arrest and charge - as the cops in my neighbourhood did.

So you will continue to threaten women - is that what you mean? do grow up. And let's get back on topic

I'll stick up for you delldays. Here's a tip. There are plenty (far too many for followers of a working-class sport) of right-wingers on here who post entertainingly, reasonably (but always wrongly of course). Why don't you have a go? Have a look at Johnny Bog or Viking or benjii See if you can get somewhere close. Then we can have debates on here which actually might be satisfying, rather than stooping to the lowest common denominator and dissolving into serial bouts of name-calling. And stop threatening women, please.

I know, of course - you were just helping out a friend.

So you deny the existence of an entire thread devoted to your desire to carry out a revenge attack on a woman? Would you like me to find the link for you? Then you can explain the differences between your behaviour and that of a looter.

True - I can't save you from the appearance of stupidity. In the end, you can only help yourself. Now about saintbletch's question re your planning violent assaults on women...

And what a shining example of individualism you are. You'd rather look quite 'a bit' dim - as a conscious choice! - than cave into the unforgiveable suggestion to actually read others' comments.

You didn't do what I suggested did you. Just go back and read Thorpe's post and make an effort to understand its content. Then come back with what you've learned. There's no point arguing with you unless you're going to try at least to take on board the actual arguments of others, rather than jerking your knee at the very sight of posters' names.

That's a slight generalisation, grandad. As I've said, the borough commanders in my part of London dealt with the problem very effectively, nipping it in the bud. The best bit about that is that they did it not by breaking heads, which merely inflames, but by doing something that really scares even the most leery of looters (hence all the face coverings): they snatched, arrested and charged them. Fortunately, that lesson is now being applied elsewhere in London.

Try two things: breathe and read. Don't post until you've done both. Then it might look as if you've read the post you're supposedly commenting on.

How predictably nonsensical. But while we're on the subject of kettles and pots, I don't think you responded to Saintbletch's post about the differences, if any, between the behaviour of those conspiring to loot and you conspiring the carry out a violent revenge attack on a woman. I look forward to your considered response.

Evidently, yes, these are dune's heroes - a violent racist could want for little else.

Aka Asian shopkeepers and women, whose heads they like to break. Easier targets than gangsters from the North London estates. As BTF says, EDL's pre-hominid stupidity is actually making things harder for the police. Brilliant.

Check.

Yes, yes. Now go and do your paper round - you're late...again.

As I say, and as you continue to demonstrate, you are too juvenile to engage with subjects like this. They are simply beyond your limited comprehension.

Again, interesting. You have quite a gang mentality. i guess I'm not in yours.

No mention of Gorkss. Was the swap deal taken off the table by QPR in the hope that we'd be desperate to offload Puncheon anyway?

You're too infantile to engage on subjects like this. You clearly have no idea what race actually means. Nor, obviously, have you seen much of Britain outside your Mum's back bedroom. To describe Britain as like apartheid-era South Africa shows a lack of comprehension unusual among adults.

Race plays no part in it. And if you actually read back what you've written, you'd see that. The first part of your post flatly contradicts your last sentence. Subcultures, not race.

I find your reaction interesting. I have heard several justifications like this from those who took part in the looting. It's not that I'm condemning what you did - I have not said that, nor am I having a dig at Saints fans. Your perception of this betrays nothing more than your shallow, thin-skinned and unreflective rage. What I am saying is that there IS an underlying, shared psychology here, as much as you hate the thought of it and tip your toys out of the pram at the temerity of anyone - including those who were there - who suggests that there is ANYTHING in common with what happened at the Dell and in London.

It is relevant though. The psychology of crowds is all about disinhibition. Your flying into an apoplectic rage is a kind of one-man riot, though - or more precisely, a tantrum.

Exactly. The psychology of crowds.