alpine_saint

Yep.

We bought in no Premiership expereience in during the summer. All clever-d*ck foreign stuff. Inexcusable.

Plenty of hens coming home to roost about our laughable transfer activity focus over the summer. Oh, well, down with the PPs and try to come back up again, I suppose.

The yellow is a far superior design to this seasons kits anyway, so I see no cause for complaint. We're stuck with the red, though....

Fair comments from Lawro. Seems to be focusing on the facts nowadays, and less on the sneering. Maybe he has learned something from the Ramirez affair.

I certainly would not agree with it, but thats a bit strong. We went down in the first place because Lowe took too long to replace Wigley.

Really struggling to see the relevance of your point. Fonte has demonstrated his ability for League 1 where Pompey are, and has not yet shown himself to be PL class.

This. It wont be like that though. NC will replace him this season if he feels we are coming adrift. I do hope NA has learnt something from the Manyoo game though, even if it is only about required fitness levels.

This is a logical argument, but in reality it isnt like that. Both Eire and the UK are members of the EU, both are Maastricht and Lisbon signatories. Why didnt that deflate the Troubles in Ulster ? I am sure its not down to opt-outs in Schengen or the Euro. Sadly, the flag issue really matters.

I get a headache following this... They are back down to 2 bids, or just the PST ? There is no way the PST bid is going to work, there is simply not enough money. Why is is Birch not exercising his duties to protect the cash reserve and liquidating the club, and why is the FL not exercising its rules and suspending the DFCSBs ?

So how do you continue to use the red and blue tokens ?

You can be sure there are defenders out there free to bring in (just look at the blue slime down the road), and a small proportion of them will be able to do a job for us, but somehow over the summer in the rosy after-glow of PL promotion out management and fans have become utter snobs, and from now on we are only interested in Franco Baresi clones that cost nothing.

Good post, frank.

Oh absolutely. For a start, ALL new members have to agree a timetable to adopt the Euro. All this stuff about retaining the pound is complete b*ll*cks. Salmond has either not done his homework and is purely playing the childish, chip-on-shoulder Braveheart ticket, which I suspect the Scottish people will eventually tire of, or he thinks he is playing a very canny game of brinkmanship which will result in having more cake and eating it, virtual independence with all the perks of being in the UK. He is a racist pig, and his pettiness over supporting Team GB won him no favours, nor has his decision to switch one of his more competent ministers Nicola Stugeon from Minister for Health to Minister for Independence, which has given the signal that his pet project is more important than the people's health. The UK Goverment must insist that the referendum is a simple "yes" or "no", since there is no way Pie-Face will win that. It will also end his political career.

I quite agree. But BAE Systems is one of the biggest left, and has its fingers in many pies, so I expected it to remain independent, or at worst expected it to merge with a similar US firm like Lockheed Martin, since it has much more future work currently running in the US than in Europe, especially since getting rid of its share of Airbus.

Also posted on the 9/11 thread.. I see no hypocrisy or contradiction whatsoever The families of the Hillsborough victims were perfectly entitled to grieve and be outraged a what happened and the aftermath. But its a quarter of a century on now, and still they wont move on and let it lie, even with the enquiry's findings. They have allowed their lives to stand still from that point. My points about 9/11 are perfectly valid, this tragedy affects a much larger amount of people, but even now, much less time after than with Hillsborough, there are signs that those affected have started moving on, like the massive scale-back this year in the remembrance ceremonies. I also posted about BAE Systems, and the tragedy that is about to occur at a company that employs 40,000 British workers. I got sneering about being more concerned about that than Hillsborough. Well, sorry, 40,000 families are about to have their lives wrecked over a completely unnecessary exercise, just so a small select group can make a quick buck. I would like to know why all of a sudden, the families of Hillsborough victims have a complete monopoly on grief and sympathy, and no-one is permitted to comment or observe anything else. This self-obsession and self-pity is what genuinely f**ks me off about some people from Liverpool. That and the fact that every policeman in the country is now tarred as a dishonest c**t. I dont care if my opinion (not trolling) is a minority and I dont care if you all accuse me of some sort of Scouse vendetta and lacking sympathy for the victims families (its not true, I am just fed up with the proportion of it all). Its quite clear to me that some of this is driven by a blantant anti-Tory agenda anyway, for example the comments linking the miners strike to Hillsborough. This is my last post ont he subject; you can all continue to get outraged without my participation.

I see no hypocrisy or contradiction whatsoever The families of the Hillsborough victims were perfectly entitled to grieve and be outraged a what happened and the aftermath. But its a quarter of a century on now, and still they wont move on and let it lie, even with the enquiry's findings. They have allowed their lives to stand still from that point. My points about 9/11 are perfectly valid, this tragedy affects a much larger amount of people, but even now, much less time after than with Hillsborough, there are signs that those affected have started moving on, like the massive scale-back this year in the remembrance ceremonies. I also posted about BAE Systems, and the tragedy that is about to occur at a company that employs 40,000 British workers. I got sneering about being more concerned about that than Hillsborough. Well, sorry, 40,000 families are about to have their lives wrecked over a completely unnecessary exercise, just so a small select group can make a quick buck. I would like to know why all of a sudden, the families of Hillsborough victims have a complete monopoly on grief and sympathy, and no-one is permitted to comment or observe anything else. This self-obsession and self-pity is what genuinely f**ks me off about people from Liverpool. That and the fact that every policeman in the country is now tarred as a dishonest c**t. I dont care if my opinion (not trolling) is a minority and I dont care if you all accuse me of some sort of Scouse vendetta and lacking sympathy for the victims families (its not true, I am just fed up with the proportion of it all). Its quite clear to me that some of this is driven by a blantant anti-Tory agenda anyway, for example the comments linking the miners strike to Hillsborough.

Agree with this in principle, but I have concerns : Who is responsible for our failure to reinforce the defence ? NA or NC ? NA did screw up the Manyoo game with those subs Why did we play so badly against Wigan ? We have to view those sort of games as our bread-and-butter this season

Isnt Birchy supposed to be protecting cash flow ? They are taking the p*ss again, arent they ? One rule for 91, one rule for Pompey.

The invasion of Afghanistan to stop the Taliban was right and was UN-sanctioned.

Sarcastic sneering from a mod. So much for setting an example. I'll leave it up to you if you think spending a couple of hours dwelling on national decline is overkill, considering Hillsborough hasnt been left in peace for quarter of a century...

That's right, I really said that The Sun were hard done by.

More snidey remarks. Sad.

What am I supposed to be wrong about ? I dont like the self pity I'd like to know what the next step is for the victims families to keep this going - publci stoning or massive compensation claim, neither of which brings the victims back I think the Sun has been overly demonised I am not really arguing with the enquiry findings, but I am a bit uncomfortable with the complete exoneration of the fans because Heysel happened so close to this. Not really understanding your question.

Superb coverage on this thread. The Hillsborough cover-up is now Jim Callaghan's fault. Another 24 hours, and we'll have global warming licked...