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That analogy is a bloody disgrace.

Wow, just when you think a certain topic will be uncontroversial. 550 of the city inhabitants died in the space of ca. 2 hours. Under tragic and gruesome circumstances, and partly due to incompetence, greed and sheer snobbery. The pain of these events was profoundly felt in the city, according to a couple of my elder relatives, just like the German bombs that killed a load of kids in the Art Gallery. It has nothing to do with Hollywood bastardisations of the events. There are real human stories behind this. How about the story of Alfred Peacock, Sotonian born and bred, dead at 7 months old ?? And I would have thought the fact that so many third-class passengers from the area died, put behind the first and second class and the Americans (who apparently barged past the Brits into the lifeboats) in terms of worthyness to save, is even more reason to commemorate ? Southampton Football Club is a very important focal point of this citys life. Wish I hadnt started this now, I am sure some of the dismissive responses are because I started it.

Hmm. I think the anecdotal evidence of that already exists...

Maybe it was 54 quid and he just went a bit mad with zeros.

This thread is mental. 47,000 posts.

NC does love his hardball, doesnt he ?

You are probably right to some degree, I seem to recall the family of the distant relative that I know about was from Liverpool. But does it really matter ? The grief was felt within the city's boundaries, the fact that Liverpool and Belfast (and Cherbourg and Queenstown) also suffered does not detract from the sense of loss in Southampton and the apprpropriateness of commemorating

How awful. What a nightmare vision. Joy (and I've felt it when my kids have scored) giving way so suddenly and quickly to world-shattering heartbreak. Awful, awful, awful. I really could have done without the details, they feel burned into my mind now.

Maybe we could get Kate Winslett to strip off so we can all draw her like Leo did - it happened in the film about the same time the match will kick off, and she's a Reading lass.

Will definitely take the kids to SeaCity when we are next over.

Well, Wikipedia mentions that : "According to the Hampshire Chronicle on 20 April 1912, almost 1,000 local families were directly affected. Almost every street in the Chapel district of the town lost more than one resident and over 500 households lost a member"

Panic over I think my relative was Ford H. He was also a trimmer, so perhaps they at least knew each other.

I lost 2 distant relatives amongst the crew, apparently. I know the name of one and found him on the list, but dont know the other.

What a strange attitude. Is the club part of the city or not ?

Does anyone if the club are planning anything prior to the Reading Match on 14th April ? I have just been reading up about the sinking, about entire families like the Goodwins and Rices with tiny children that were wiped out, and about how many of the crew living in Southampton died that night. Look at the list on Wikipedia and where the crew came from. It was a tragedy for the city. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crew_members_on_board_RMS_Titanic I know the club do All Saints Day, but I for one definitely think the club cannot let this match pass without a small symbol of remembrance.

Thanks for that, a superb summary of the nonsense of Pie-Face's position.

Nah, after the tragedy he's has to face up to recently, I hope he is happy wherever he ends up.

He can f**k off after his prima donna stunt last time.

Agree. Was invited round a friends house over the holidays, and he had the Top Gear Challenges box set. Was crying and sides were aching by the end of the electric car challenge. Clarkson, May and Hammond are top blokes, great entertainment value.

Agree with this, but couldnt care if we are proven wrong and the SNP win. Plenty of time still for Pie-Face to whip up racist fervour and lies.

Blimey. Small world.

FFS, what is it with this holier-than-thou mobbing of people with differing opinions and perspectives on here at the moment ???? THIS is why I posted my "attention seeking" thread.

Hypo, I tried to make the same point to him last night. He simply doesnt see it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2084195/Liam-Wood-Boy-13-dies-collapsing-football-pitch-moments-celebrating-goal-family.html RIP, little one.

Good post from you, Johnny.