Lighthouse

I swear that’s about the fourth time we’ve shipped five against Spurs at Christmas in recent years. What a ludicrous thing to pull off so consistently.

Amazed we’ve kept Dibling on the whole match. His minutes need to be managed, an absolute waste of time having him on in the second half.

He was lucky VAR took the heat off him against Brighton. All the interfering or not debate distracted people from how absolutely dreadful it was for him to be a solid yard offside in that situation in the first place. Will be useful again next year but a truly hopeless PL footballer.

Lucky you, it’s still 0-0.

Have 11 goals ever been scored at the same end in a PL match?

Some people do. I really can’t be bothered trawling threads trying to find who said what but they’re out there. Yeah they probably are but they’re still the worst (and also stupidly large) collection of players in the division. Will we sack Martin? Hopefully, probably… I don’t care. Nobody was going to keep this lot up, I don’t really care if we finish bottom with 12 or 22 if I’m honest. Just please FFS beat Derby, we don’t deserve that record AND two 9-0s.

I’ve not so much been defending him as refusing to believe that this absolutely sh*te show of a season is all his fault, or rather hilariously, that we have a midtable squad which is being held back by the manager. I spent the whole summer wondering when we were actually going to start signing PL footballers, only to be left still waiting. Tonight we had people slating the manager for dropping a keeper who was released by mid-table Boro, a defender who Swansea fans all agreed was sh*t and a striker who scored 4 goals in all competitions for Sheff Utd. That just about sums up the utterly appalling state of everyone involved in this football team. Martin, the players, SR, the whole f*cking lot of them.

It’s not embarrassing, I actually applaud them for sitting through this and not walking out.

Uncle Buck is on ITV2.

Good fucking grief.

It's not tongue in cheek, people are genuinely upset by this nonsense. At a guess, I'd assume because McC has had injury issues and was playing with strapping/injections against Liverpool.

No, he's dropped because he's a bottom half Championship keeper and our fourth choice. I know EVERYTHING needs to be Martin's fault but Christ, he's being criticised for dropping Joe f**king Lumley.

No Wood because Bednarek and THB are better. Armstrong or Archer isn’t much of a choice, I’d go with Archer personally but they’re both Championship strikers.

Well… that’s a list of footballers, I guess. Being asked to throw the ball out to a teammate who’s not within three feet of an opponent is not an ‘Ederson impression’.

As pathetic as the play acting was, I do wonder how monumentally dense, even by footballer standards, you need to be to go head to head with another player in 2024 with VAR. It's up there with Stephens against Chelsea as the most astonishingly brainless thing I've seen in football.

I was responding to a post about what's best for Israel and their border security, how have you missed the point that badly?

Whenever I’ve been there’s generally been an excellent selection of different food vans, some fairly decent live entertainment and the beer prices are reasonable enough for what they are. The fan zone is certainly a lot better than the one van serving slabs of salmonella-riddle shredded newspaper patties in a cardboard bun that we used to have, followed by a plastic bottle of warm Carling when you got inside.

People don’t choose their residence based on public holiday bus schedules. That’s a minor inconvenience if you haven’t got a car but that’s all. Trains have reduced service on public holidays too, so I’m not sure I understand what you’re suggesting.

I'd definitely agree it'd be great if we could have a small platform behind the Kingsland however I disagree with your overall point about there needing to be expensive improvement for the area to be viable. Outside of the central bus terminal on Above Bar and perhaps Central Station, SMS is maybe the best connected place in the city for bus routes. There are four bus routes along Northam Road, passing the stadium directly, two more within a five minute walk which route up through St Denys, and a further six if you head south to the Itchen bridge. https://images-bluestarbus.passenger-website.com/2024-10/Bluestar_Unilink_Southampton NETWORK MAP MASTER_Oct 2024.pdf It's already a very well connected and convenient part of town to live in.

I disagree entirely. In the chaos that ensued following all the 2014 ISIS takeover of Iraq and Syria, Israel came out of it almost unscathed. A civil war between hardcore Sunnis, Turkish backed sepratists, Kurds and Iran backed Shiites suits them just fine as there's nobody organised enough, with enough spare resources, to cause them any real problems. Israel's biggest threat recently came from Hamas, who ruled Gaza with absolute authority and relative stability in the years leading up to 7/10.

If you're on a thread about stadium expansion, which is nothing to do with the manager, and are repeatedly refusing to accept the business decisions being made because you want every decision to be centred around Martin, it's clearly gone well beyond a rational dislike. You've said we're in freefall under a useless manager, you clearly believe we're going to fall far enough that people stop going to Saints games for a sustained period of time. There's no reason to think that at all.

Which is precisely your problem, you can't get it into your head that this issue is nothing to do with your hatred of Russell Martin. This is a long term decision which wont be completed for years and wont pay itself off for probably more than a decade. The status of on employee wont even come into the discussion of stadium expansion, they will be looking at our long term prospects as a football club. As much as you want to insist we're going to plummet down to the lower leagues with Martin clinging on til the bitter end, that isn't going to happen. If he's not gone this season, he'll either get us promoted next season or be sacked.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-southampton/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/180 Last time we got relegated, despite a much longer absence and the 'novelty' of the Championship, our average attendance was only 23,600 and stayed fairly consistent the following season. Last season it was 29,300, which is all but a sell out when you factor in some opponents bringing very small away followings. Clearly something has changed. Your 24,000 figure is plucked from thin air and everything we've seen so far indicates that actual attendances will be far higher, even if we don't come straight back up.

You guys are getting a bit sidetracked here. Saints are a top of the Championship and bottom half of the PL sized club. We've shown over the last few years that we can sell out St Mary's consistently in both leagues. Talking about this seasons form is like saying you shouldn't book a holiday in Mallorca in June because it's forecast to rain tomorrow.