Saint86

Woosh!!!

So, after the week of reckoning we have had are one in (Wanyama) and we've had one out (Forren)... I think that goes to show that Glasgow really is, "in the know" and as such, his friendship request has been accepted! Great day to be a saints fan, an ITK poster is confirmed and we have made a quality signing!

I.e... MLG?

Wanayama has signed! I Posted this last night and taken down by mods yet not here? Strange!

We totally outplayed west brom at home.... go look at the stats. And you are suggesting that playing 2 strikers more than 1 would leave us less vulnerable to the counter? Since poch came in, we outplayed every single team we played bar the first 45min away at old trafford. If we could take our chances better and stop having fox/jos **** up moments at the back we would have finished top half. And either way, a newly promoted team fielding a largely league 1 and championship team finishing as well as we did in our first season is not "embarrassing".

No comment other than I'm happy for you... you've got a lot of good times about to come your way!

Also barry, another point against having to spend money to get eurpoean football. go look at arsenals net spend since 08/09... it is one of the lowest in the league, memory fails me but it may even be negative.... Hasn't stopped them getting champions league football. And to look where we have both come from, in 1994/95, pre wenger, we were finishing above them in the league...

Barry, I am finidng it hard to take you seriosuly here. This is not your fault, but this argument has become quite aggressive as usual. This leads to broad sweeping comments and loads of back sniping. You are now coming out with what appears to be a very biased argument; saying that we need to outspend the current top teams to get into and maintain a position in europe and moaning that whilst we are spending money, we are not signing players that will "ensure" are place in Europe. From my perspective of football. Nothing is 100 percent certain, and the signing of any player does not ensure anything. From another perspective.... NC's model would see us with the next generation of Oxlade, walcott and bale... they would have played in the same team as bridge and would be alongisde other players like morgan, cork, lallana, jayrod and lambert.... backed up by a few quality player such as those we have been linked at recently at gaston and Lovren.... Where the club is heading... if we sell shaw it will be for shed loads, that or we can keep them and we have ready made quality players... its like actually doing what Arsenal have been trying to do (but then resorted to buying ours for shed loads).... And you may dismiss that model... but look at the players united brought through and played at top level, and look at our pedigree for players over the last 20years... Nothing will assure our way to premier league football. And frankly, I think cortese is spot on in his approach..... Get a young squad... play the U18's a the highest level possible to develop our own, and buy a selection of quality players to plug the gap... We will never do a city... and all they have won is a title and a cup for a billion net spend... But what we might do is an arsenal... Also people knock the city of southampton... but our players, live, work and train in the new forest.... compare that to london, because when you have kids as a footaller where would you honestly want to live? Maybe that is why we are producing normal teenage footballers that speak well and have a level head, where as the london teams produce 20 year olds with a 10 year old reading level. With NC at the helm, this club will go wherever that man wants it to go... sit back, enjoy the ride.

Funny, but lets be honest: 1.) The hot weather gets to the best of us. 2.) You've just made Glasgow's day! And... 3.) Whoooshhh!!

Based on today's news it would appear you are spouting a crock of baloney!

This guy would be our Toure, play him anywhere through the middle and he'll be quality. Fast, powerful, and huge. Would be a great cab considering we push up under MP. But even better at brining it forward from midfield.

Are they? I would leave a question mark over city and united. Arsenal will be the same, and Chelsea should finish top 2 or run away in my view (and on present form) Since poch came in I felt we outplayed everyone. But we threw points away with poor defending and not being cynical. A few squad improvements will cut that out, let alone the quality we are linked with. I think with that improvement it will push us to top 8 in an injury free season. But NC is going far beyond bringing the weakest parts of our squad in line with the average standard. Instead we replaced jos with a champions league CB. If we sign the players we are linked with it will for a quality team with great squad depth. In an injury free season I honestly think we can push for 5th as our top goal (doubtless the down wants 4th but I can't quite believe it yet). So for me, worst case with injuries is 10-11th to a best case of 5th and a cup run. 8th as a worst case finish in an injury free season. Some may say that 5th to 8th is being very optimistic. But consider that porch has had us outplaying everyone. We dismantled liverpool/, Chelsea and city and despite a dire first half at old Trafford, we hung in there at then did at man United's fortress what Barcelona did to them at Wembley... If we become more clinical and cut out the mistakes then the future is indeed very bright... The future is red and.....

Agreed, Solid at the back, just need to be more clinical and cut out the Hoiveld/Fox miscommunication errors that cost us dear last season. Fortunately I don't think they will play alongside each other in more than a couple of games this season!

listening to radio 5, Wimbledon with Lisicki... Hot, but not Poch

Cheers Dan, much appreciated.

What time is the press conference due to be on? Will try to listen in on my phone at work.

Exactly, EPPP is a sham, we were against it during the vote I believe anyway? Wasn't there a big hooha at the time over the premier league blackmailing the football league clubs with less income if they didn't vote it through... Makes it even more important that we got promoted. If we hadn't then we wouldn't have been able to offer shaw and warde prowse first team football in the premier league and would have been forced to sell players of their caliber for a pittance of what we could now demand. We were lucky in that we manged to force our way up the divisions with consecutive promotions, we also caught the new tv deal... now imagine a club like crewe alexandria, where they can't get to the prem quickly, and who have a great reputation for bringing through players that then funds the club and the first team. A rule which damages the football league's abilty to produce and give first team football to youngsters is not in the national teams best interests!

Which part of the shirt isn't a rip off and isn't a re-branding on the clubs traditional stripes? Do tell? Or can i expect further 1 word smart arse answers as you attempt to take the **** out of the majority view??

Trying not to judge, as I said, people can buy it if they want, its a free country! Just shocked at the attitudes between fans. The shirt represents a callous re-branding of the club and extortion of the fans, particularly charging £40 for kids strips let alone the £50 cost for the adults... Little to deny in that surely?

I have just checked out the comments on the DE website regarding the new kit its popularity. I can't believe the people on there. There a few trolls on there who are being overly aggressive in abusing saints fans who have bought this kit, fair enough. But the ones who have bought it can't see that: A.) its a total rip off at £50 when you can buy it on-line for £15 B.) Think they are in the majority in that the new shirt is good C.) Either can't see that they are supporting a stealth rebranding on the club or actually support it and feel that as "true fans" that is then way to go and the rest of us (majority against re-branding) are wrong. For me, personally, it is just a shirt... I hope and feel that the numbers will stack up, and we can go back to a kit to rival the championship one in the coming seasons. But how people can argue that they are in the majority to support this kit is beyond me, our own SWF poll indicates only 16% would buy this shirt.... (maybe that is a biased poll, we are the die hard nutters who care enough to sign up to a forum after all).. but the echo poll was similarly against the shirt... So if you like it, fair enough go and buy it. But I dislike people ramming it down our throats that we are wrong and we are should embrace the club as it sells its soul. The majority wont buy this shirt (I hope), I expect to see more championship stripes and league 1 sashes than pinstripe/Arsenal jerseys this year (I hope)... And anyone who supports the club in charging the fans £50 for an AVERAGE (being kind) teamwear kit that can be bought on-line for £15 and is in use by / similar to other clubs kits, is massively letting the rest of the fan base down imho. If you like it, buy it, but you are selling out the clubs traditions and the majority of the fanbase are against it and want stripes or a certain kit from the eighties which had less stripes. Unbelievable that fans are getting aggressive abuse over this kit, let alone those who are against this kit. But ffs, it should cost £20, be distinct, and be striped!! Don't support the club in ripping us off. they don't need encouragement!!

Lots of chav saints fans in v-necks incoming. Its like Portsmouth fans have switched over already. Kit would be good without it. With it it is horrendous. Worse than the home. Home kit is at least smart. Just not saints. If he wanted to change the clubs image and make us Stand out in the prem, then an all white "miss Southampton" style was the way to go. Smart, well liked, and distinct in England bar leeds' all white kits. Our marketing department are regards.

On a side note. I am also going to break ranks. I think it is a smart home kit... The away is wannk.... And nothing about either is saints related

Shame. Going to struggle to get enough season out of the championship kit. That was the smartest striped kit I have seen, the city, Chelsea and Liverpool wins would ha e looked so much better if red and white stripes had been sambering about them. Gutted. Blame everyone who bought last years kit... You supported the club in this endeavour now we have to listen to some of u moaning as well.

All cab be found on Google. And still no thoughts by yourself as the other question you asked....

Clear cut and simple really. Agent wants the money, Cortese doesn't pay greedy agents which we have seen time and time again, and was shown by our total spend of agents fees last year vs other clubs. If the player is happy to settle for a club where he will achieve less in Cardiff then fair enough. It means the player lacks ambition big time and Alarm bells are ringing for me. Let him go to Cardiff, maybe that is his level, Big fish, small pond etc etc