badgerx16

What opportunity ? In 1948 the Palestinians saw most of their land confiscated and occupied as they were displaced by a huge number of immigrants. At that point they saw no point in simply caving in and accepting the situation, reacting as most people would. Over 70 years later nobody has succeeded in sorting out the resultant mess.

So find a rational way to undermine their powerbase and make them irrelevant.

Which is not solving the problem. Would Hamas have such support as they have if Gaza and the West Bank were truly part of a self governing, independent state, where Israel had removed the illegal settlements, military checkpoints, the security barrier, and relinquished their stranglehold on essential utilities and transport ?

There is no easy solution, but in similar vein Israel is not going to eliminate Palestinian militancy by force. All states and people's with "skin in the game" have to be addressed, and possibly the way to limit Hamas is to deal more effectively with Iran - the people pulling Hamas' strings.

Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, Nelson Mandela, Menachim Begin, Yasser Arafat...........

Get away from your Twitter feed and develop opinions of your own.

At least 100 reported killed after Israel bomb a hospital, at least 6 more in a school sheltering people who had moved south to the "safe" zone, and Egypt saying the border crossing is not closed - it is simply too dangerous to try to get through due to Israeli air strikes. Definitely looking to maintain a safe passage out and minimise collateral casualties.

Chamber

What did they ever do for us ?

Ah, but yesterday the Israeli ambassador to the UK told Sky News that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. A UN official told the BBC that hospitals are rationing patients to one glass of water a day.

Perhaps over 2 million displaced people aren't happy with being crammed into the Strip, having been turfed off their ancestral lands and having all of their basic humanitarian needs controlled by what they perceive to be an apartheid style oppressive military machine. There are differing views and interpretations of what might be done, but one thing is for certain; whatever has been done over the last 20 years, and continues to happen, hasn't solved anything, and if things stay as they are it will still not solve the problems.

It is also day 3525 since the invasion and occupation of Crimea.

I am sure Mossad know exactly where they are.

Gaza is not all of the land that Israel occupies, most of it is the West Bank. Palestinian Territory is the combination of the 2. Also, Israel has almost total control over over water, fuel, and electricity supplies to Gaza, and of all but 1 of the routes in. ( Then again, you know this perfectly well ).

How many UN resolutions and international agreements is Israel in breach of ?. There are more current UN resolutions against Israel then all other countries combined. I am in no way justifying Hamas, but you seem completely oblivious to all the privations and apartheid actions that are imposed on the displaced Palestinian people. Israel can stop most of the problems by withdrawing from the occupied territories, granting the Palestinians the rights and freedoms they are entitled to, and working on a way forward through dialogue that denies Hamas and other extremists their production line of new recruits.

Mossad and Shin Bet have a history of extra- territorial action.

I know.

Apparently this comment is humourous.

They are capable of far more "surgical" action than effectively bulldozing half of the Gaza Strip. Also, as previously mentioned, perhaps try for the leadership of Hamas, comfortably tucked away in the UAE. Maybe they shouldn't be so oppressive in the territories they illegally occupy, thereby reducing the tension and temptation to retaliate. Do you think what they are currently doing is going to make the problem go away ? At some point somebody has to put on their Big Boy Pants and try to find a way to implement an effective 2 state solution that breaks the cycle, because all they are currently doing is breeding the next generation of terrorists.

Or refugees over a military occupation ?

In which case they should contact the Police.

Pro Hamas demonstrations are banned. Pro Palestinian ones are permitted. How many of the babies Israel have killed had vowed to erase Israel from the Earth ?

Sitting in my workshop, painting a pair of owl bookends carved from the ends of 4*4 fence posts, listening to the dulcit tones of Rage Against The Machine.

You do realise that sometimrs I will agree with something you post.

England v Fiji was pretty meh.