badgerx16

"I'll be watching you".....

In various elections, local and national, I have voted Labour, Liberal, SDP, Lib Dem, Plaid Cymru, The Northern Party, even the Greens, but I am proud to say I have never voted Tory. ( See what happens when Soggy brings politics into a thread where it is not warranted ).

I am one of what I suspect is a very exclusive club on here - I have previously voted Plaid Cymru in an election.

LOL !!! Me right wing ??????? To borrow a phrase from another poster, give your head a wobble.

Are you for real ? And as for your assertion that the Taliban will harbour ISIS, they won't. They have spent the last few years shooting the crap out of each other.

Guided Missile does a good line in piano wire. But seriously, do you actually believe that people who disagree with you on this are "anti-British cowards" ? Such a histrionic wet blanket.

Imagine the scenes of panic at Heathrow if they ever decide to pull out.

The US troops in Germany are not viewed, at least by a significant portion of the population, as an occupation force imposing an alien set of social and political views. Ditto South Korea, ditto the Phillipines. No US soldier in those countries has ever been shot at or blown up by an IED. Stupid comparison.

Don't worry, as you can tell by my post count I am a veteran of this forum - I have developed the necessary thick skin.

I think you meant the US. 😉

https://www.thechicagocouncil.org/commentary-and-analysis/blogs/us-public-supports-withdrawal-afghanistan https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/551040-poll-73-percent-support-us-withdrawal-from-afghanistan Admittedly the percentage in support has dropped in the last 48 hours, but the majority are still in favour.

To continue the circular argument for one more rotation; For how long ? The UK ha splayed it's part in the current situation, but we are bound up with the USofA, and they are doing their own thing, which leaves us with Hobson's choice. If you want to rant and rage at anybody, take it up with Trump, he started this current fiasco.

Withdrawing their troops is what the American population want.

I agree it's a shit show,and the withdrawal has been an omnishambles, but it was a US show, and everybody had to follow their lead. Trump said he was taking his ball home, so it was game over. As usual, it is the 'normal' people who get shafted.

"Low morale, no support and bad politics: why the Afghan army folded" https://www.ft.com/content/b1d2b06d-f938-4443-ba56-242f18da22c3

We still are.

What difference would it have made for the UK to spend an additional £350m a week in Afghaniaatan if the US withdrew ?

Just like those other countries the US have successfully 'Westernised" ; Libya, Iraq, Somalia, and Syria.

The Taliban were deliberately avoiding US casualties due to the agreement signed with the US in March 2020 that set May 2021 for the final withdrawal of all US forces. Any such action would have goaded the US into rethinking this. Given Trump is such an isolationist, it was worth their waiting and not provoking him.

Suddenly it's pantomime season.

No it isn't.

No they don't, they ran away. They'll return to some version of whatever civilian life they had before they signed up.

Ray

Saddam was yet another bastard of a dictator who developed a sense of invulnerability because the West armed and suported him against one of their perceived pariah states - in his case the Iran Iraq war. Ironically, once he started getting too big for his boots the CIA started covertly arming Iran as well.

In the context it was completely unwarranted. As I said, you couldn't resist. Whether it's you or Turkish. you always manage to introduce snide, smarmy, digs into every thread.