Wes Tender

Is that the sound of your ego deflating?

Really? The EU was effectively born via the Maastricht Treaty in 1993, when Eurosceptism began to find its feet. It might not have been an issue for you before 2012, but it was for many others since Maastricht.

Did you read my post correctly? I made no criticism of Austin and praised him for getting the ball in the net, unfortunate that it was so marginally offside. I made no mention of Martina either, although I don't disagree with your assessment of his part in the game. So if you read my post again, where do you disagree with my opinion?

Wriggle, wriggle, wriggle. Have it your own way, the only reason that Nissan is here is because of access to the EU market and the recently formed grouping known as Brexiteers has bashed industrial policy for years before they even existed. It doesn't penetrate your cranium that I question your terminology in both cases, rather than the thrust of your argument. I realise that you would suffer loss of face by admitting your error, so it comes as no surprise that you employ this bluster and the usual arrogant insults in your vain attempt to deflect attention away from the original errors.

Your last line is the most sensible one of the entire post. Many forecasts of the Remainian project fear campaign for the immediate impact of a vote to leave the EU have not materialised, so it is sensible to await further developments before making longer term forecasts. You say that the falling value of the Pound will lead to an increase in both exports and inflation and it is nice of you to recognise the export upside. I suspect though that you meant to say that it would lead to the increase in the price of imports and thus inflation.

You can be really puerile when you put your mind to it, but just for your benefit:- http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/group.

We gave them too much space and time on the ball and when we gained possession in midfield we were woefully slow in attack. With Chelsea having such an easy, poorly defended goal so early on, they were content to sit back and let us try to break them down, and then hit us on the break. It was criminal how we didn't have a player marking Hazard's every move; you just can't allow a player like him the space and time to control the game or get a shot away. Our best chance of getting anything from the game was via set pieces and Chelsea were proven to be vulnerable defensively because we had two or three free headers in the box, but couldn't direct them on target. Austin also proved that their defence was vulnerable because he had the ball in the net from only being very marginally offside. If we had somebody like Long available, we could have broke up-field with some pace and put them on the back foot, but instead we were pedestrian. Also some of our passing and touches were woeful and we gave away possession time after time. That Chelsea managed to fool the referee so often by falling to the ground at every soft touch didn't help the flow of our game. They have an Italian manager and the sort of players who are masters at that gamesmanship, but ultimately we weren't at the races today and Chelsea had too much quality in their team. We'll just have to beat them up there, like we did last time.

Caught with your pants down posting tripe whilst still bleary-eyed, it is you that is trying to avoid the flack by deflection. You're even trying to assert that Eurosceptics and Brexiteers are the same thing. Go on, have the good grace to admit that you got it wrong by referring to the recently formed group known as Brexiteers as having "bashed industrial policy for years".

Targett offers quite a lot going forward and puts over a decent cross. Perhaps you haven't watched the many matches when he has done that. Granted that he is not up to Bertrand's standard, but still pretty useful.

Nissan is only here because of access to the EU? The fact that Sunderland is one of their most productive and innovative plants and that they sell more to the UK than to any other EU country has no bearing at all, does it? How do you conclude that "Brexiteers" have bashed industrial policy for years? Do you mean Eurosceptics? Brexiteers haven't existed for more than a few months. Even accusing Eurosceptics of that is somewhat bemusing. Give us examples. Perhaps if you didn't post so early in the morning, your thought processes would be less muddled.

Agreed. Look at how well Newcastle are doing next door having suffered the drop last season. They will come back strong next season.

If he's gone by Christmas, will it be Arsenal, or one of the top European teams?

Believe what you want, but as it stands, until some evidence surfaces to the contrary, Timmy's assertions are groundless bluster.

In your dreams.

Have a butchers at the Pelle goal a bit further down that article. Pure class.

It means nothing of the sort, no matter how much you wish to place that interpretation on it.

And very arrogant as par from you. Nissan received very attractive Government grants to set up in Sunderland originally, as it was a an area badly in need of regeneration due to the loss of several heavy regional industries. This link provides a comprehensive view of their relationship with the British Government in 2010/11, long before Brexit. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmbis/memo/561/gai07.htm Greg Clarke referred to Nissan being satisfied that the Government would continue to ensure that the conditions conducive to manufacturing industry and the investment into research into new technologies would continue. On that basis, they were prepared to continue not only as they were, but with increased production with another additional car model. Clearly the UK is a great place for Nissan to do business with, and their plant here is among the most productive in the World. I reiterate; your original assertion that the Government "would have to write cheques all over the place" and that the Government "had to pay Nissan" to stay in the UK, is just unfounded post-Brexit hysterical posturing from you. Your subsequent reply moves away from such florid language, but is still speculative as to the possible alternatives.

You're p*ssing in the wind. Why don't you and some others on here just wait and see what transpires after we have triggered Article 50, instead of indulging in conjecture over things that might not happen? You lot lapped up the prophecies of economic Armageddon from Osborne and most economists that would immediately follow a vote to leave the EU and it hasn't happened. It is equally futile speculating on what sort of deal we will reach with the EU, if any, regarding access to the single market, but it will not include uncontrolled freedom of movement of peoples.

It seems that you are totally and utterly wrong with your conjecture, not for the first time when it comes to Brexit. On last night's Question Time, Greg Clark MP, Business, the Energy and Industrial Strategy Secretary who was involved in the talks with Nissan in Japan, categorically stated that no cheques will be written.

Typical alarmist and sensationalist perspective by the Not Independent. What they actually mean once one reads past the headline, is that the rate of growth fell by around 28.5% or so, which they have rounded up to almost a third. On the other hand, an equally sensationalist headline could have trumpeted that the rate of growth was 67.6% higher than predicted by economists post Brexit.

A crap game made great by a moment of sheer brilliance that will linger on in the memory as the successful home debut of Boufal. It was the game where we played 6 of our home grown academy players, yet still had enough quality to have won a league cup match against PL opposition. Fonte and Yoshida gave us enough experience in defence and Hojbjerg enough experience in front of them, to allow a degree of youthful experimentation around them and Puel's daring tactics having produced the win, are to be applauded. He had made provisions on the bench to have strong substitutions available if needed, but the team acquitted themselves well enough that drastic changes were not needed. On paper, a team like this would have been taken apart by a top team, but Puel gauged it just right with Sunderland, that the youngsters would give their all and that players like Boufal or Redmond could push us over the line. Comparing him to Koeman, it is unlikely that Koeman would have dared to have chosen to play so many academy players, but also there wouldn't have been the depth of choice available to him otherwise to have had players fresh enough to have ground out the result. Puel has been either lucky, or very astute tactically and the more we progress, the more I am inclined to believe that we have acquired a very good manager. As well as having several key players out injured, and having to rotate our squad to avoid over-tiredness because of the frequency of matches, we are managing to still be solid in defence and capable of winning games. It really is an achievement worthy of the highest praise.

Dellhurst was a brilliant day out; forty or so coaches left in a convoy and turned South Norwood into a suburb of Southampton for a day. We took over virtually an entire side stand and outsang Wimbledon fans the whole match. Wasn't it themed for Kachloul, with kazoos and fezzes? Although Sheffield Wednesday also had Sanderson as their sponsor, surely their shirts were blue and white stripes? Or do you mean that you sowed a Saints badge onto a SW shirt?

Yes, you're right. We didn't win a match that season until 24th October, when we beat Coventry 2-1. Some heavy defeats up until then included 5-0 Charlton, 3-0 Leeds and 4-0 Newcastle, as well as the 3-0 against Man Utd. Wasn't that the "Great Escape" year when we put in a run of 3 wins in the final three matches to just stay up by the skin of our teeth having been bottom on 14 points at Christmas?

The year before in the 94/95 season we drew 2-2 with them on New Years Eve at the Dell, so they didn't beat us there for 4 years. Following that run of success, they beat us at the Dell 1-3 the following year in April 2000. The 2-1 victory was the match on 13th May 2000 immediately before the win against Arsenal, the last PL match at the Dell. We didn't have much luck against them at St Marys until August 2003, when we won 1-0