Wes Tender

Some serious omissions there. You forgot about the plague of locusts, the killing of the firstborn, the four horsemen of the apocalypse riding across the country, World War 3, no Mars bars.

The opposition? Is that her Majesty's Opposition to the Government or the Remoaner opposition, the rag-tag collection of political pygmies? Which indicative votes in particular? Come on, put some flesh on the bones of this skeleton, otherwise it is just airy-fairy pie in the sky platitudes. Which way did you vote in the referendum? Did you initially accept the decision? If not, why not? What about the situation now? The Irish border Backstop, being tied into the customs union, jurisdiction of the ECJ? And if you weren't for Brexit, where do you stand on the EU project? Are you for further political integration, the Euro? Where is the line drawn in your mind between what constitutes Brexit and what doesn't? How would you have negotiated a better deal than May? Or was her negotiating strategy a masterclass in how to completely cock the whole thing up and what she wanted all along as a remainer?

A great question, Nick. Shurlock as far as I'm aware, has never made any concrete suggestions as to how he thinks the situation should move on. Perhaps he would be good enough to elucidate his position on the path he believes we should follow and justify it. Or is it far easier to just say "Jesus wept" and attempt to appear intelligent by making out that everybody is a bit thick if they disagree with him?

There you go, almost by accident it seems that you have recalled a reason why you voted to leave and admit that it's still a valid reason. Careful that the remoaner trolls on here don't label you a racist little Englander though. Everybody who voted to leave had their own reasons and nothing can be calculated to annoy them more than to be told that there are no valid reasons for leaving, or that they didn't know what they were doing.

I question your ability as a businessman if you believe that there are no upsides to a clean Brexit. Surely you must have believed that there were benefits to leaving the EU originally, or are you admitting that you made such an important decision on 23rd June 2016 based on nothing in particular? Current Polls show that there is a majority among those who expressed a preference that we should leave now on WTO terms. Maybe they are of the opinion that they are fed up with how we have been treated by the EU in the negotiations, how they believe that May f*cked up the negotiations, or perhaps they're just thick, because they don't realise that there are no upsides to Brexit, eh?

I love the hypocrisy of those Parliamentarians who stood on election manifestos to honour the referendum result, voted to trigger article 50 which stated that we would leave the EU on 30th March with or without a deal, and who bleat about democracy when they renege on their promises to deliver on the referendum decision. A substantial majority of MPs represent constituencies that voted to leave the EU and many of those who shout the loudest about democracy have even left the parties they stood for at the 2017 GE for rival parties and don't even have the guts or the decency to stand for re-election. Hypocrites one and all.

I can tell when you're really rattled, as you immediately indulge yourself in puerile name-calling. I admire your constraint though, only choosing the most infantile insult regarding his weight, when there was scope to be even more juvenile by insulting his general appearance, dress sense, background, education and other factors, none of which affect his ability to be Prime Minister. I wonder what your clients would make of your character when considering appointing you as a consultant, were they to know how infantile you can be.

Agree with your post. But regarding United, it might have been 22 shots against 5 to them against Palace, but it was 3 shots on target each. United had over double the possession, much higher passing accuracy and passes, but ultimately even if they had put away the penalty, it would only have earned them a point. I'll be quite happy if they only have three shots on target against us, because we can potentially equal or better that.

You beat me to it

As I said at half time, despite us playing poorly during the first half, we had the advantage of the extra player. Did I hear that Liverpool are offering £50 million for Djenepo in the January window? That was some goal. Ditto the Redmond goal from a superb Bouffal cross quite reminiscent of Tadic. We have been in similar situations where we have played superbly and lost to a team that took their chances to steal the points when offered, so it makes a change for us to do it to somebody else. Also it is good to have a goal chalked off by VAR that might well have stood otherwise. It was nice to have Danso blooded and Djenepo to have another outing. We have another chance to try them on Tuesday before facing Man U, who won't have their chins up after a loss against Palace. I feared the worst with Friend refereeing with Mason on the VAR, but nothing wrong with either of them today

We're too tentative because of the change of personnel and formation. As a result we have been outplayed this first half. But we are still on level pegging and have the advantage of an extra player for 45 minutes. I believe that we play better with 3 CBs and with pace out wide, something that Bertrand and Valerie bring. The new lad Danso isn't comfortable enough to press forwards yet. Perhaps he needs Djenepo ahead of him, tracking back to cover him when necessary.

Perhaps they would also like to ask the club for video footage of the several thousand of our fans chanting "you don't know what you're doing" at Marriner, and sue them too.

Yes, watching it on MOTD, it was clearly out of reach. It looked closer from the Chapel/Kingsland corner. Niemi in his pomp would have saved it though.

I think that most Saints fans will have come away from the stadium thinking that we deserved at least a point, with the possibility of all three if the dice fell in our favour with some better finishing. The difference between the two teams on the day was that they were deadly in their finishing, whereas we weren't. We were the better team in the first 45 minutes, but it was as if our players were already in the changing rooms mentally during the two minutes of added time, whereas Liverpool appreciated the advantage that a goal at the death of the first half would give them, and went for it strongly. It was a very fine finish from Mane, but that is what he is capable of given the space to pull the trigger. I wondered whether Gunn should have saved it though. We had good chances to have been a couple of goals ahead by then, Yoshida's header producing a very good save from Adrian, and Adams putting a free header onto the roof of the net. As expected, Liverpool came out for the second half with their heads up and began to assert themselves into the match. The 50/50 balls that mostly fell to us from our high press, gradually began to fall to Liverpool and we began to sit back deeper, increasing their threat. Something needed to be done to address the problem. Hasenhuttl brought on Ings for Romeu, who was on a yellow awarded to him by Scouser referee Marriner for a fairly innocuous tackle. Although for a short while that gave us two up top, it weakened the midfield. The midfield was strengthened with the introduction of Armstrong for Adams and he produced an immediate impact, putting himself about with some purpose and winning some important tackles. The third substitution, Bertrand for Djenepo gave the new lad time for a useful cameo, which showed him in a good light. When Liverpool scored a second through a Firmino goal, that looked like the match was secured for the Scousers, but a dreadful error by Adrian kicking the ball straight at Ings and it rebounding into his goal, and Saints had renewed faith in themselves. We fell upon them, closing them down, unsettling them and putting them under real pressure. It isn't fanciful to say that they were desperately hanging on for the final whistle.Typically, Ings having scored a lucky goal, he then missed a gilt-edged opportunity to rescue the point by missing an absolute sitter, needing just a simple tap in. To be fair, Firmino had missed a similar chance earlier. Had Ings scored, then there was even the impetus to have maybe scored a winner. Close to the end, Matip almost put the ball into his own net. For all those profits of doom predicting that Liverpool would slaughter us, the match was hard fought with not much to separate the teams besides several millions of expenditure by one of the World's greatest glory teams with three of our ex-players on the pitch in their team. With the glory team fixtures comes the biased referee favouring them whenever their players took a soft tackle and allowing their players far more brutal tackles in return, because certain referees like Marriner aren't impartial. He has history for giving multiple dodgy decisions against us and the loud chants of "you don't know what you're doing" heard several times during the match are testament to his ineptness. No reason why we shouldn't give Man U an equally hard match when they come here shortly.

I expect he's rolling on the floor laughing, like I did when I heard about this. It's pure comedy gold.

I repeat the question to you. Which part of that statement makes Danso a bad signing? It might be suggestive that his age or lack of experience in the PL could point to his introduction into the campaign early being risky, but nobody knows yet, do they? Neither his age, his nationality nor his being signed on the last day of the transfer window are reasons for thinking that he could be a poor signing, are they?

Fair point

It would be easy for the usual doom and gloom merchants on here to forecast a hammering from the second best team in the country, complete with their ex-Saints players adding real strength to both their attack and their defence. But for some reason, that is when we provide the shock results, proving a much harder nut to crack than everybody thinks.

Which part of this statement makes Danso a bad signing? Is it his age, that he signed on the last day, or that he's Austrian? Had he been Dutch, 24 and signed on the last day, that would be fine, eh? Like Virgil Van Dyke for example.

We were the better team for an hour playing some attractive passing football, Romeu holding the midfield, Valery allowed loads of space on the right and Bertrand and Redmond posing lots of problems on the left. Burnley had only one shot in the first half, and that was high and wide. We had a great strike from Redmond which Pope did very well to save. VAR came to our rescue twice, once when Bambi Stephens slipped allowing them to score, but the linesman rightly flagged it offside and he was vindicated, the second time when a slightly late and high tackle by Adams was deemed not to be a red. The trouble with VAR in such situations, is that it always looks worse in slow motion and perhaps seen in real time it was deemed to be just slightly mistimed with no intent. Starting the second half 0-0, it looked as if the match could easily end as a scoreless draw, or that we might even sneak a goal, but then a typical Burnley hoof it up the pitch ball caught us out and typically Barnes was the one to score. Having made the breakthrough,they seemed to lift their game, whereas we appeared to drop our heads, resulting in us conceding a couple more times without posing much threat in the remaining time to the whistle, despite Hasenhuttl rolling the dice having brought on Obafemi, Hojbjberg and Boufal. What was disappointing is that Adams and Ings didn't produce more threat compared to Barnes, our main threat being Redmond once again. I understand that Hojbjerg had been ill during the week, so sensible that he didn't start, but we hadn't missed him for the first hour. When he came on, he almost gifted Burnley a goal with a comical defensive error, so hopefully he is fully recovered when we play Liverpool. Personally, I wonder why we don't play Yoshida instead of Stephens and also I wondered whether Armstrong and Long might have been two players capable of having an impact against a workmanlike team like Burnley. Boufal is a player with good skills, but was almost invisible as he hardly touched the ball since coming on. Although disappointing to start the season with a 3 goal deficit without response, it is far too early to gauge what Djenepo and Danso might bring to the team.

I suggest you go and get some psychiatric treatment. Your delusional condition is becoming more serious by the day. You're now on ignore, you ignoramus.

Why didn't you address your perfectly reasonable point to the Unbelievably childish Jeff? If you care to look back, I was commenting on the match, and he was the one who resorted to his kindergarten level of insult.

You really are a nasty piece of work, aren't you? How much further into the gutter can you go, first accusing my wife of having sex with my non-existent Romanian gardener and now suggesting that I ought to mete out violence to any European football fans I come across. You follow me around like a bad smell, too infantile to be mentally capable of differentiating an opinion on a game of football from one on our membership of the EU. And Shurlock latching on to it makes him look just as childish. Perhaps you can explain why I should have any animosity towards any Europeans when I have Austrian and Italian parentage or ancestry. Do grow up and try and act your age. Didn't I have reason to believe that you would be going back to Canada? Please do make it soon.