sadoldgit

I cant believe the time and effort that people put in for players who have left the club.

Many clubs would like to have a terrible season and be where they are though.

Football is a business and lets not pretend that money doesn't come into it. He may have been unhappy the year before but from my recollection he did a decent job for us last year and I don't recall there being any lack of dignity when he left.

aggro

menopause

bung

That would have been 1992 Luke. I went to all 3 gigs so who knows, we might have sat next to each other?

I am pretty sure that Man U didn't overpay us for Clyne. Liverpool on the other hand....

To be fair he wasn't a regular starter earlier in the season but since he has had a run he has proved his worth.

I didn't see them until 1972 the Hammersmith Odeon and then the Wembley gigs in 1974. I didn't see The Nice first time round but did catch them when Keith toured with them again in 2002. I have been listening to the live album from that tour, Vivacitus, today, Still sounds amazing. The fusion of rock, classics, jazz and blues isn't to everyones taste but the versions of the Karelia Suite, Pictures At An Exhibition etc blew me away when I was a teenager. To see him playing Bach from behind the Hammond organ (and underneath it!) was bat**** crazy but it was what the 70s was all about. Amazing musician, amazing showman. After the slagging that Punk gave ELP and their ilk it was also funny to see John Lydon and Keith become mates later in life too!

huffing

Yep, you have to be of a certain age. I thought there might be a few more Prog Heads on here but it seems like we are a dying breed.

probe

This hasn't just happened. The media has been this way for years and years.

Same could be said for David Bowie. I know many people here weren't even born then, but ELP were t he biggest band on the planet in the early to mid 70s. Yes, bigger than Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd for a while. Keith Emerson was possibly the best keyboard player that rock has ever produced. But feel free to pass him off as just an old man.

I am the only one then?

Was going to say the same thing. Rubbish that Pelle isn't he?

Another musical giant has passed away. He made some truly wonderful alums with The Nice and ELP and was described as the Jimi Hendrix of the keyboards. He was a massive hero of mine in the 70s. Very sad news.

I am talking about a "Little Englander" mind set but I am sure you get that. I am sure you will get that because you are a Little Englander.

It has quite a lot to do with it. We haven't had an Empire for many years and are not the power in the world we once were yet to hear some people talk you would think we were still in that place. We are European and we need to be part of the European Union. You said yourself that both leaving and staying were both a leap in the dark. If we are heading to 4th as you say, isn't that because of being part of the EU? So why jeopardise that by bailing out?

Which is great if we were America, but we are a tiny part of Europe and becoming tinier each year. We really need to understand that the glory years are well behind us and that we need to show that we are part of Europe and not just when it suits us.

From what he said the other day it looks like he wants to stay and prove that he can play in the Premiership. Good luck to the bloke. I hope he does.

We should have no more or less influence than anyone else but that doesn't mean that our influence is insignificant. We will certainly be insignificant in Europe if we leave the EU.