sadoldgit

Going off on one? Why do you have to equate someone stating a view that you don't agree with have to be related in emotional terms? Anyway, I know what the thread was about because I started it. It was about a terrorist attack in Paris. No religion was mentioned initially but then it became about "Muslims." We have talked about many things which cast Islam as a whole in a negative light. "Muslim" rape gangs for example. Do we know that all of the accused were practising Muslims at the time of arrest? No matter, it was a "Muslim" rape gang. Holepuncture tells us to take care because Muslims are after us. Sour Mash doesn't think that Muslim immigrants have offered anything positive etc etc. This is not just about Muslim extremism (unfortunately) it is about Islam and "The West." We have ended up talking about Nazis and Christians and Nativity Plays (and somehow even Easter Eggs) because the point has rightly been made that evil is not the sole preserve of Islam. You say that you support moderate Muslims although it took you some time to start challenging the Islamophobes on here (it was even suggested that they didn't exist on here ). As you say, the discussion widened but there are some who still want to polarise issues down to Muslims. You might not agree, but there is a greater problem in this country with rapes by white males who may or may not be Christian. Batman goes out of his way to find a negative story about Muslims and for a period he was doing it every day. You didn't seem to have a problem with that yet you say you support moderate Muslims? Hmmm. Really? If you want to talk about a small percentage of people without a reference point to a wider world how aon earth do you think you are going to get any kind of perspective. Yes, some Muslims are terrorists, yes some Muslims commit sexual assaults, yes some Muslims break the law. It is not more likely to happen just because the person is a Muslim but to read some posts on here you would think that Islam is responsible for all of the evil in the world when if fact, mankind is responsible, no matter what race or creed. So if you support moderate peace abiding citizens why not save your barbed comments for those who have a problem with Islam?

Thank you. I shall watch it.

Please feel free to quote where anyone has said that there isn't a problem. There are many problems in the world but you seem to feel it is necessary to find evidence of problems with Muslims every day. It is nice that you have found something that supports your paranoia. A sample of 1000 out of a figure of over 1 billion people has really nailed it. I for one am going to stock up on tinned goods and put sandbags over the windows.

layla

Sounds interesting, what was it called?

What never fails to amaze me is how opinions on players and how they performed differ so much. Pelle for example gets shedloads of cr@p from some quarters and support from others. I have seen him slagged off even when he has been awarded MotM??

Don't sit on the fence Art. Tell us what you really think!

But where is that going to come from?

Nail on head here Charlie.

Did Trevor have anything to say about Islamophobia of those who spend their days looking for negative Muslim stories on the Internet?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, but poor old Batman isn't even that consistent!

Apparently he is saying that he wont go to another London club out of respect to the @rse. I hope he goes somewhere to get game time rather than being a bench warmer.

Maybe, we shall see I guess but it will be interesting to see if he goes or stays and tries to make Spuds a "big club" again. Frankly I really don't care if he does well or not.

Me too. But what a car crash. I'd forgotten just how cr@p those days were. And to think we have had people telling us how badly the club was being run during the last two summers!

Why is it annoying? And he still hasn't won anything yet. Perhaps save your feelings for when he does?

Yet apparently we were told that we should be looking to emulate Stoke (and Everton and Crystal Palace).

Probably best mate, although I agree that fart gags are always welcome too!

What an earth has the comment regarding the obvious statement that rape isn't the preserve of Muslim men got to do with people not being charged, convicted and sentenced earlier??? I don't think you will find anyone on here who condones rape, no matter who commits it.

You really do not get it do you?

Do you honestly believe that RK would play certain players out of favouritism? He was a quality player and he knows better than any of us that you don't win by playing favourites. You might not agree with some of his selections but then when does anyone agree with a manager all of the time? (Especially on here )

crack

nick

Trying to be too subtle perhaps?

I might agree with you if the word "should" meant anything. You can say that we "should" have gone up both times as champions but we didn't. There are no guarantees in football. Chelsea "should" be finishing in the top 4 this season with all of their resources but we skirting the relegation zone for a while. Given last season you could say that Tottenham "should" be above Leicester this season. You can say we underperformed, but nothing is nailed on in any given season when it kicks off.

Would that be the first statue or the second? But yes, things were pretty awful but who knows where we would be if that hadn't happened? We nearly got bought by the consortium that bought Coventry and I remember many on the forum bigging them up. Lord knows we dodged a bullet there. As grim as it was, would anyone have missed the amazing journey we have been on since?