sadoldgit

black

He is part of that defensive unit. We need to give him a break because he is really not as bad as some people would like to make out. You don't win matches if you don't score goals and that has been our problem recently, not Forster.

Spot on.

Cant believe people fault him for the first. Don't think anyone would have saved that. As for the second it took a deflection and it wasn't an easy stop. Give the guy a break. We are still in the top six so he must be doing something right.

We may have lost yesterday but from what I saw we were the better team. Other teams have had a chance to do their homework on us and are treating us with respect. That alone is massive. It has been a wonderful season so far and no matter how it ends up, I am full of confidence that we are only going to improve next season. Still a happy bunny despite the result yesterday.

I am with you there Monk. I used to groan when I saw his name on the teamsheet but fair play to the guy, he has really stepped up. It is nice to be proved wrong about a player!!!

cull

The dog ate his homework. Professional footballers don't have too much to worry about off the pitch. Surely getting to a game on time is quite high on the agenda. Fair play to RK.

We still would have lost. Still, I guess it is his fault that we didn't score any goals either.

pie

dimples

It is a good result whatever happens later surely?

castratoes

Never thought I would be cheering West Ham LOL. Happy days!!!

The CPS and police deal with discrimination cases under the umbrella of "hate crime." This involves people who have been targeted for their skin type, sexual persuasion, religious beliefs, gender etc. Although they are grouped together the case are also identified by type ie - religious, racial, domestic violence, homophobic etc so that figures for each type of discriminatory crime can be broken down specifically. If a crime is committed and the reason is down to any of the above, then why wouldn't you report that and make an issue of it? The guy on the Paris Metro was clearly singled out because of the colour of his skin. Black players used to have bananas thrown at them whilst playing football. A charmless lady has just been thrown out from UKIP for explaining why she doesn't like negroes. In all of these cases the common denominator is that the victims have been singled out for being black. When people are singled out for being Muslim, Christian, female, gay, whatever then that is the reason for the alleged offence and so that is what gets reported. Yes race crime is reported on if the victim's skin is black and why not? As we have seen, The Mail published a story about a white woman who has been racially abused so it is relevant to make an issue of skin colour. The bottom line is always ignorant discrimination but it is relevant to mention what caused the issue so that that type of discrimination can be dealt with within its own type. Sadly some people will discriminate against others purely because of the colour of their skin. That needs to be dealt with as does the discrimination against other groups. If you lump it all in together it makes it harder to deal with the specifics.

Unfortunately skin colour is an issue because it makes it easier for someone to be identified as "not one of us." I have heard plenty of racist comments directed at Europeans once they open their mouths and it becomes apparent they are German, Italian, whatever. It all comes down to basic tribalism. When skin colour is the same tribes used to wear different colours so that you would know who to discriminate against/kill. White Europeans have a dreadful reputation when it comes to carrying out racism against other white Europeans - just think ethnic cleansing. Look at the IS situation. There is appalling "racist" stuff going on that does not revolve around skin colour. I think most rational people can see that skin colour is just one element of what is happening, but has to be dealt with all the same - especially if people are being singled out just because of their skin colour.

bing

We don't seem to be doing too badly without all three of them. Would "70 Minute" Lallana walk into our current side? Debatable. I think he would find that he would have to fight for his place and could see him rotated as he is at Liverpool. How many great seasons did he have for us? I can remember constant slaggings on here about his performances. Still, he has gone. We have a better squad. Time to let go and look forward to given them a spanking and finishing higher in the league.

Agree that discriminatory offences should be treated equally and they often are. I have seen many article about gays and lesbians being treated badly. This is a current news story therefore were are talking about it now. If they stop making an issue of it it will never go away. By highlighting bad behaviour and making the point that it is not socially acceptable the light will continue to shine on the perpetrators and eventually it will be something that that puts these people to shame rather than makes them seem like martyrs to the nationalistic cause. In my lifetime drink driving has gone from being socially acceptable to socially unacceptable. People still do it but they know it is wrong and I have seen people called on it on many occasions whereas in the past it would have gone unnoticed. I don't think discrimination will ever go away but as long as racism and all of the other forms of discrimination are highlighted eventually the moronic few who feel it is ok to behave this way will become even fewer and will be shamed for their Neanderthal views.

It is all over the Mail though, so what is your point? Does make racism in football any less palatable? Racisim is wrong. Full stop.

No doubt the apologists will see this as just a bit of banter.

Gotta love the Yanks. No arrogance whatsoever. Perhaps it would be better if they all owned guns, then there would be fewer of them

mite

I have heard a lot about this second team malarkey but have never actually met someone for whom we are their second team (I live in Kent). On another note, watched Pointless the other day and there was a guy from Norwich on who supported SFC so nice to see we have "plastics" too!

Awesome to be clear of relegation by January? You were honestly thinking about relegation at that point and not the possibility of CL football Dalek?