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It is relative to lots of things - for example if you only count Adkins Prem games he would be our wosrt manager even. Managers can only manage in the divisions they are in with the players they have. I raise the point because Burley is being lambasted as being rubbish when he didn't do a bad job of winning football matches for us in the league he was in. As for the drinking, it is still heresay. He should be judged on his merits as a manager and until after leaving us he wasn't that bad. He was also a very good full back in his playing days.

1. Delighted for Adkins 2. Defence still a worry. Fox simply not good enough 3. Lambert deserves to play for England

Ok, I'll bite. Firstly I can't believe the amount of people here who seem to delight in past servants of the club failing. Burley had the best points per game ratio of any of our managers before Pardew and Adkins came here and was a whisker away from taking us up. It was hardly his fault in his second full season with us that his best players were sold from under him but as Lowe wasn't involved he got the blame. He might not have been our best ever manager but he was far from the worst and I enjoyed the season we made it to the play offs more than any for a number of years. So he likes a drink? So what? Plenty here do but it is a crime if you are George Burley? This coming from supporters of the team once dubbed by the late great Bill Shankley as "Alehouse footballers," LOL I wish him well in whatever he does next but no doubt there will be plenty here looking out for more failures. Sad really.

Lets face it Alps, despite the shortcomings with crowd control there were people who didn't help the situation in the crowd.

I was at Orient crushed up against the wall the night it collapsed. It was a terrifying experience and I can only imagine the horror those poor souls experienced. No one comes out of this with any credit. The police, the fans who were pushing and shoving. I know it is an unpoplur view but I for one am thankful of all seating stadia. I have never felt safe on the terraces in large crowds and why people think there is something noble about being squeezed in with loads of other fat smelly men god only knows. RIP those who died. Let us pray that it never happens again.

I don't get it. They are too embarrassed to go to their own doctor with their problem but quite happy for the viewing millions to see their manky parts?

Nail on head

I remember people writing off Morgan after a few games. Give JRod time!

It sucks

Personally I am gutted we signed Keegan. Just think of how many average players we could have signed if Big Mac had not gone for him! It is a sign of intent. If Ramirez is that good hopefully a better quality of player will want to come to St Marys.

Keep Adkins and let some other mugs employ Redknapp. Simples

Somehow you just knew that we would blow it in "Fergie Time." The focus should have been on strengthining the whole of the defence. We are still a CH and LB light which could well prove costly. Still, new players to come in and only 3 games in so no time to panick.

I'd be interested in knowing whether Nigel has given NC a list with the recent signings name on them. Lowe was often criticised for ignoring the managers and buying players himself. Given the diversity of players coming in Nigel must have a super insight into a very wide spectrum of players!

Where is the evidence that Lowe and the other Directors embezzled cub funds? They had to run the club on a shoestring and managed it very well for several years. Have you fogotten managing to stay up with 15k crowds at The Dell? I don't recall us have any super rich directors who could put their own money in. As far as I know NC doesn't either. We are where we are now because we are owned by a rich family. Lowe made a number of mistakes at the end but he was excellent in the transfer market given the money he had to play with. We are just fortunate now that there is a great deal more money to spend. Still no guarantee we will stay up though!

Billy Sharp is a decent enough Championship striker but if we was Prem quality that is where he would be. As someone said though, the loan is a good move in case we do go down and need him back! Still worried about the left back position and the defence in general. Still, it will be interesting to see what the new signings bring to the team. As for Lowe never spending £30m, he never had that kind of money to spend as it wasn't around in the early days of the Prem. NC has the benefit of a recent promotion and firm financial backing from the owners. You could argue that we have underspent given what established Prem club players spend on individuals but as Rickie only cost £1m you can find gems on the "cheap."

We are naive consistently. All Prem clubs will give away some poor goals on occasion.

Of course it is early days yet but there is a major concern over the defence. Man City could have been out of sight with better finishing last week and we look like a side that will conceded 2 to 3 goals a week. WE are naive at the back. We got away with it most of the time last season but we won't this season. That is where we need to stengthen urgently.

Maybe not strange but utterly ridiculous!

I didn't say I would stop supporting the club. As for the shirts in the 80s they were mostly a remodelling of the red and white even if some of them weren't actually stripped. This one is a cast off Liverpool shirt. The away kit looks a little more like us but we have had some really cool kits recently and aprt from not being cool. this does not look like Southampton FC. As for the prices, why do people pay so much for some shiney synthetic tat?

Perhaps the red strip is a cunning plan to lure him here instead of Anfield?

Perhaps we should change the colours on the Union Jack too? Surely they are a bit jaded now? Ferrari should race in yellow perhaps? There is nothing wrong with tradition and being proud of your team's colours. We are not Liverpool, we are Southampton FC and the stripes were the reason I stared supporting the club in 1966. If Lowe had done this would everyone be saying ooooooh cool? Very sad as far as I'm concerned. Our first season back in the Premiership and we should proudly wear the stripes that represent Southampton Football Club.

Chelsea play in blue shirts, Manchester United in red, Everton in blue, Southampton in red and white stripes. Call me old fashioned but that is what I think we should wear. So is this the "Soutjampton way" he has been crowing about? Changing our heritage?

No matter what you think of Lowe, her did his best work for us in his negotiations with other clubs.

Should have added Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound and The Lambs Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis as classic Prog albums.

Our first true Progressive band was probably The Nice. They certainly influenced the early Yes and married rock, jazz and classical music with various levels of success from about 1967. Band like The Nice and Jethro Tull were know as Underground in those days - the name for "alternative" music at the time. Releasing singles was seen as selling out and it was mostly about the albums. The Nice/King Crimson morphed into ELP, Yes brought in Steve Howe, the Gabriel era Genesis found their feet and the goldern years of Prog Rock were born - probably between 1970 and 1974. Punk was actually quite small. It was more New Wave that came through in the late 70s and made the real difference - although the Dinosaur bands they were suppoed to kill off were making even more money doing stadium tours. Genesis were more commercially successful post 1977.Check out Keith Emerson, Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Greg Lake, Ian Anderson, Robert Fripp, Rick Wakeman, Dave Greenslade. Prog rock was singually very English, although others followed, the pure type of Prog Rock came from the English middle class. The birthing poing was prbably Sgt Pepper and The Moody Blues' Days Of Future Past.Prog at its best? Fine examples are ELPs Pictures At An Exhibition, Tarkus, Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery. In The Court Of The Crimson King by King Crimson. The Yes Album, Fragile and Close To The Edge by Yes. Thick As A Brick by Jethro Tull. For the early stuff anything by The Nice will give you the heads up.I went to see Carl Palmer's band the other week and for a guy in his 60s he is still an incredible drummer. He is still gigging so once again the notion that Punk did away with fine musicianship is nonsense.Going back to the New Wave. The Stranglers ripped off The Doors and The Jam ripped off The Small Faces, The Who, The Kinks and The Beatles so the only New thing about them was the bands rather than the music. Oh and for the guy who mentioned Marillion, they total ripped off early Genesis and Gabriel.Never real thought of Pink Floyd as Progressive. They were a psychadelic band who changed massively when Syd freaked out and left.