OldNick

Left wing clap trap. If you invested into something you are rightfully expecting a return, (Iam not a shareholder) therefore the chairmans job is to try and get people to buy the product and then from the profits a return is given to the shareholders. There are many people who have shares costing them £1000's of pounds and rightfully deserve something back, afterall they could put it in a buildoing society and get 3-6% on it and so if they invest in Saints they should get at least that back or why do it? Would you give a company £1000 and not expect a dividend?

Well what do I need to understand. The fact is fans have been falling away under RL's stewardship and under the Wilde bunch. The club could have sold 50k plus for the Cup final, we sold out regularily in the Pl . Please tell me why it was different to go to games when we were in the PL to now? Had the reverse takeover happened and was RL then the chairman? I really can't see a difference to then and now, if the reverse takeover was as bad as some say ,then why did those fans still attend any Saints games from that day. Can you not see that? I know you have follwed Saints and we have had other discussions on this and I was pleased that i think you said you were still going to games but it seems illogical that the principle becomes more important now we are in the CCC

If that pricing is correct then it shows what a terrible financial mess we have got into.I dont beleieve that if the tickets were £10 we would get lots more fans to make up for the halving of prices. Its fine now for clubs like Charlton or Norwich but knowing the fans from here if the tickets were £10 and we got PL next season they bloody wouldnt accept the price trebling and we would have the same old moans of the club ripping us off. The other clubs are askig for financial suicide if they keep their prices at that level, as I noticed Charlton were not filled up even at that rate.

Im with you on this, if he only will go if it is free what good is he to the finacial health of the club. I dont want to go down the road of saying that there should be no freebies as that caused a lot of unneccessary grief last time but we need all hands on the pumps.

I dont think we would be in any better position with NP as he would have had basically the same funds to work with, but that is only opinion of course.

I think that is most pertinent and correct. I have a lot of time for people with principles as long as those principles have been consistant Sadly most of the fans deserting the club have principles that have only surfaced since relegation. Afterall Rl was at the club 10 years and only in the last 4 have fans all of a sudden found these principles that they adhere to whatever

you would as you gave up some time ago. I would understand JS and respect his and yours more if you both had the same principles when we were playing in the PL and Europe. Did either of you go to Cardiff for the cup final? because if you did your stand now is hypocritical as Rupert Lowe was our chairman then and the reverse takeover had happened. If it is success you crave and that will get you to go again say it, but it is tiring listening to the same old lame excuses why you dont go, as RL has been at the club 10 years and so if you stepped into the stadium at any time up to then the arguement is flawed IMHO

All very fair and much I agree with

I can see that is true, but fans also take on board what people say. We can help break down the negativity by being more positive about the football when speaking to the waverers, if we reinforce the negatives they are more likely not to go. I agree the football has not been scintillating but it has been very attractive at times, but at the end of the day people want to be associated to success and unless we go on a winning run it will be difficult to bring the fans back

Fans should remember that the club will be here after RL or anyone else, but for that to happen they have to rally behind the club now at the moment of greatest need. All those fans who have banged on about RL taking money etc etc etc have in their own little way helped in the fans drift away. Some will say that they have no bearing on it, but IMO the fans who spend time on here in the main make saints a major part of their lives and are the fans who the first thing they are asked about when they go to pubs or clubs is about the situation. I can say that happens to me, whether socially or at business. So the thoughts our transmitted to the wider fanbase and many of the part time fans take on these thoughts whether they should go or not.If they are told 'its c### and it's like watching the reserves but at top money' many will think I'll not bother wheras if we were more positive and perhaps gave the opinion of 'its great to watch the youngsters grow and we are playing good football' some may think yes lets go along. It may be too simple but it does have a small ripple effect. This site is a good example, the constant negativity has made a lot of the average fans find other places to put their views up and now dont log on or just dont bother reading it anymore as it is depressing.

to rely on away fans to bolster the gate is no good. Although the money does go into our coffers.The whole club needs an injection of hope and enthusiasm to take us forward. A decent win will help but with a young team you always get stop start and so you never know which team is likely to turn up. Watford are the type of team that we all worry that our young players might not cope with.I hope they can stand up and be counted and their undoubted team spirit will bring them through

Thats good i like that name, Norris it is.You and thickmick will be getting married when, I do hope we are all invited.

I quite like the name Norris, thanks. You Skates are amusing.

you go and join with your Skate mate, you have a lot in common. You have more in common with him than me. Corp's Ho Siding with a Skate what are things coming to

Hey Slickmick Corp ho is on line shouldnt you be holding hands?winky thing

No I dont think that Nick Nack is abuse its just smarmy stuff that you are noted for. Pay your £5 and then I would understand the moderators putting up with you on the main board. At present you are not contributing to the runnng costs of the site but also infringing rules that you know are part of Skates coming on here.It's very easy, you have rules to be allowed to post if you dont follow them you are supposed to get infractions or banned. Daren has kept his powder dry and not responded fair play to him, I dont know if he is violent or not but I doubt if face to face you'd risk saying any of what you do from the safety of behind the computer. Anyway you have wasted 1 of your 3 posts on me, so we only have to put up with 2 more.

they are doing well 1500, with 5 posts and 1 of those from a Saints fan giving them a bit of jip

No my wife bought a magazine Now I think it was. Jodie Marsh is more plastic than Corp Ho and that is saying something

He will be well pleased that you have joined his posse, its great seeing Saints fans and Pompey fans united . You are a match made in heaven.

My dad is no longer alive. He died on the badminton courts of Europa tennis centre (now David Lloyd) So in this point you are correct

In the Bottle (drunken mix ) is much better

she has noiw decided she is a lesbian, they are welcome to the freak as far as Im concerned.

my wifes Ann Summers one given to her of men is disgusting.Having men used as meat is appalling, we do have brains you know and should not just be used as sex objects

that could be an advantage....perhaps I meant younger pretty ones....only kidding BTF

she does like you so you never know.