Shance

There's just too much info pointing towards Spurs for it not to be true imo.

Le Tiss Pretty much retired with us and turned down offers from bigger clubs. Morgan has made it perfectly clear he wants to leave. Whats the point in running down his contract? There's no way he'll sign an extension and he'll end up leaving on a free.

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/english-premier-league-wage-bills-club-by-club/ The fact of the matter is money. Always has been and always will be. ATM we are competing with a club that has nearly double our wage bill and a club nearly treble our wage bill. These teams can quite easily tap our players up by simply letting them know that they can double their wages and THAT is where we fall short. The fact is we are doing extremely well with the resources we have but we will never compete financially unless we grow our global brand to increase our revenue unless of course some bored Arab prince buys us out which tbh i'd pass on. I'm happy with how we are thanks.

Who is he?

Does anyone know why Bertrand has had surgery on his knees? hopefully nothing that could cause a recurring injury.

If he stays another season (which I dont think he will), he'll go for half our price next summer!

Yeah I agree. We know he's leaving, lets get shot of him quickly so we can integrate his replacement.

Sounds fantastic

tbh I thought he just scouted players.

I never said it didn't happen at all, just that it's more isolated. and as for your examples, Cech is second choice for Chelsea and he had to get special permission from Abramovich to sign for Arsenal, Torres was having fitness problems when Chelsea decided to smash the british transfer record, so like I said, it doesnt happen THAT often. When was the last time a top four club sold four of it's best players at the end of a season, let alone to a direct competitor!

There is absolutely no way our head scout will have any idea of the ins and outs of players contracts.

He plays RB, RCB and LCB from what i've heard. At least Targett will get a big chance now!

Big blow. He'll take time to regain match fitness when he's training again as he'll have missed the whole pre season!

losing Bertrand is a big blow!!

nothing we didnt already know reference toby.

Nice one.

The best way to counter that is to select the none gimpish parts of his point then have a well mannered discussion possibly involving a pims or two.

Got any links matey?

Looking more and more likely that Spurs are going to sign him regardless of our dispute. Pretty annoying really as Toby is a top player.

Yes I agree with you that they are all a step up in prestige. I put us in the same bracket as them, not because of club size etc but because at this moment in time we are competing for the same places or have similar ambitions. i shouldve used better terminology than mugged i,ll admit that one

i give up.

I know what we've done and i'm aware of our infrastructure but you are completely missing the points made. How often do you see utd/arsenal/chelsea etc selling their best players to each other? its rare because they all compete for the same thing. we are in the bracket below that with Spurs, Liverpool and Everton the former two are able to consistently mug us off. Why? because of money. That's the reason why it's more difficult for a smaller club like Southampton to push on and challenge the big boys unless we have an investor of man city proportions.

Yeah i've already seen your pictures and tables but decided that it was pointless as I already knew the information you so condescendingly shared. The point isnt 'how it worked out for them', the point is how they are able to continuously do it, which in turn will halt us from pushing the envelope further.

No harm in discussing what it would take to push on. I myself am ecstatic with where we are and what we're achieving.