NickG Posted 1 August, 2009 Share Posted 1 August, 2009 http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/430449/Saints-alive-under-Alan-Pardew-Scroll-down-for-YOUR-League-One-team.html http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/430844/Wolves-chase-Adam-Lallana-Saints-kid-is-Mick-McCarthy-target.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Great article about Sir Alex inviting AP to Manchester for three days, when he was out of work, to see how the whole club works.......very interesting insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 I just hope Sir Alex ran him through the hairdryer drill from start to finish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 there's some conflicting stories going on here..... There's a 5 year plan,then there is 2 plans for this season,1 to eradicate the ten points within 4 months?? Then try and push for a playoff place in the next 4 months?? It's not a 5 year plan then,it sounds more like a 'hit and hope' plan to me What happened to a top two finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 there's some conflicting stories going on here..... There's a 5 year plan,then there is 2 plans for this season,1 to eradicate the ten points within 4 months?? Then try and push for a playoff place in the next 4 months?? It's not a 5 year plan then,it sounds more like a 'hit and hope' plan to me What happened to a top two finish? What :confused: You've lost me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 there's some conflicting stories going on here..... There's a 5 year plan,then there is 2 plans for this season,1 to eradicate the ten points within 4 months?? Then try and push for a playoff place in the next 4 months?? It's not a 5 year plan then,it sounds more like a 'hit and hope' plan to me What happened to a top two finish? I don't think he means to take 4 months to eradicate the -10 points. Lol :-0 Though I agree it could sound that way. Rather I think he means that it might take 4 months to play catchup with the pack before making a push for the playoffs etc which seems entirely reasonable doesn't it? AP has said he's ideally like to be shot of the -10 after 5 games. That might be a bit hopeful though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 What :confused: You've lost me. 'our immediate plan is to get rid of the -10 points,then see how long we have got left.if it's 3 or 4 months we can have a go at the play offs,I'm not aiming any higher than that.' This suggests to me that he is happy for us to play catch up for half a season and then see how it goes from there. This is not what I expected from somebody who wants a top two finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 there's some conflicting stories going on here..... There's a 5 year plan,then there is 2 plans for this season,1 to eradicate the ten points within 4 months?? Then try and push for a playoff place in the next 4 months?? It's not a 5 year plan then,it sounds more like a 'hit and hope' plan to me What happened to a top two finish? AP: "Our immediate plan is get rid of this minus 10 points, then see how long we have got left. If it's three or four months we can have a go at the play-offs. I'm not aiming higher than that." No conflict there. We are starting a long way behind the rest of the field remember, so the "immediate plan is get rid of this minus 10 points" i.e. catch up with the bunch. "Then....". One follows the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 'our immediate plan is to get rid of the -10 points,then see how long we have got left.if it's 3 or 4 months we can have a go at the play offs,I'm not aiming any higher than that.' This suggests to me that he is happy for us to play catch up for half a season and then see how it goes from there. This is not what I expected from somebody who wants a top two finish.I think Wildgoose's post is on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 'our immediate plan is to get rid of the -10 points,then see how long we have got left.if it's 3 or 4 months we can have a go at the play offs,I'm not aiming any higher than that.' This suggests to me that he is happy for us to play catch up for half a season and then see how it goes from there. This is not what I expected from somebody who wants a top two finish. You have to be realistic though. To get into the play offs this year would be a great achievement from -10. If we are mid-table at Christmas we can give that target a real go, if not then its just consolidation and building for next season, thats not lack of ambition its real life. The real target must be for next season to have a real go at ****ing this league !! But they cant come out and say, "well thanks for the 10500 plus season tickets, but actually dont expect too much this year will you cos its probably just us preparing for next season !! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 the club needs to plan PROPERLY for the future. That means a little patience, as well as money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 You have to be realistic though. To get into the play offs this year would be a great achievement from -10. If we are mid-table at Christmas we can give that target a real go, if not then its just consolidation and building for next season, thats not lack of ambition its real life. The real target must be for next season to have a real go at ****ing this league !! But they cant come out and say, "well thanks for the 10500 plus season tickets, but actually dont expect too much this year will you cos its probably just us preparing for next season !! " I am realistic all the time on here but people can't accept reality and they try and rip my arse off :-) Last season in this league you could probably scrape the playoffs on about 70 points,so with our -10 that would be 80 points,that's about 2 points per game....not impossible but very very unlikely....not forgetting there are a lot of big clubs now in l1 all trying to do the same as us with better bigger squads. I would love it if we did but miracles are far and few between these days in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Realism and blind support is what is needed from us this season,everything else will be dealt with upstairs. Many of our rivals in this league will come to St Marys like children going to a sweetie factory and will be jealous and think we are already "up ourselves"and probably clog us to death, I am expecting quite heavy injuries,Arsenal it will not be. Like the owner we are investing in the future of our club by buying season tickets,it is an act of intent to support our club that we SO nearly lost..so please get behind everyone who has our best interests at heart ,it may not be the quick fix we would all like but like a good marriage lets work at it and bring confidence,support, warmth and love back to St Marys and then everyone will flourish. We are the first to knock the fickleness of other fans,don't let us get on their bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Last season in this league you could probably scrape the playoffs on about 70 points,so with our -10 that would be 80 points,that's about 2 points per game....not impossible but very very unlikely....not forgetting there are a lot of big clubs now in l1 all trying to do the same as us with better bigger squads. I would love it if we did but miracles are far and few between these days in football. Actually what we need are two of the bigger clubs with big squads to tear this league apart and amass as many points as they can. By doing that they would make the number of points required to make 6th place - and in real terms that is surely the best we could hope to achieve - a lot less than it would be if its a tight league with 6 or 7 teams vying for the top two places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Can I just point out that AP did not actually write this article ! He has been quoted as saying 'such and such' by the News of the World, so it's a bit rich to disect it word for word and then be critical of him !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint simes Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Can I just point out that AP did not actually write this article ! He has been quoted as saying 'such and such' by the News of the World, so it's a bit rich to disect it word for word and then be critical of him !! Plus the NOTW can't actually tell the difference between AL and SG, so how accurate is the rest of it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 Actually what we need are two of the bigger clubs with big squads to tear this league apart and amass as many points as they can. By doing that they would make the number of points required to make 6th place - and in real terms that is surely the best we could hope to achieve - a lot less than it would be if its a tight league with 6 or 7 teams vying for the top two places That makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 That makes no sense. It makes a lot of sense to me. If two teams run away with automatic promotion, then the likelihood is that you'll have a number of teams just below bunched on much lower points totals and there's more scope for a team having to make up a -10 points situation to be able to still sneak into the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 2 August, 2009 Share Posted 2 August, 2009 It makes a lot of sense to me. If two teams run away with automatic promotion, then the likelihood is that you'll have a number of teams just below bunched on much lower points totals and there's more scope for a team having to make up a -10 points situation to be able to still sneak into the top 6. I agree. Actually, if 3 or 4 teams are way, way ahead of the rest, this suits us. I don't think we have any realistic chance of automatic promotion, so we want the race for the final play-off places to be amongst v mediocre teams with very modest points totals. I think we have a reasonable chance of chalking up 70 points (80, minus 10), but we need the 5th/6th/7th slots to be on low points totals for that to be enough to get us into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 I wish you hadn't pointed this article out to me - I only want to think bad things of Ferguson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Have we ever got 80 points in a season before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 That makes no sense. Of course it does....there are only so many points available in a League each season and if 2 teams get shed loads its obvious the other teams wont get so many !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Why is that better than Southampton being one of those teams that runs away with it? If Saints do aswell as Leicester did last season they would come 3rd. 1 point away from 2nd place and automatic promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Why is that better than Southampton being one of those teams that runs away with it? If Saints do aswell as Leicester did last season they would come 3rd. 1 point away from 2nd place and automatic promotion. Well we can all hope that happens......but it may ba asking just a bit too much. I think the League is stronger than last year to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 August, 2009 Share Posted 3 August, 2009 Can you see why your original statement has flawed logic know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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