TopGun Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7620720.stm I do like a good joke but this one has been rehashed a few too many times! (sorry Bungle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 At General Election time I vote for them. To keep those Tories out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 Bless em. I bet Bungle is getting all excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 TBH not one of them are fit to be in government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 Are they the yellow ones or the blue ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 I may vote for them. Can they make me any poorer? Probably not. Can they do worse? Probably not. Plus the leader is a pimp who nails birds for a laff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 I may vote for them. Can they make me any poorer? Probably not. Can they do worse? Probably not. Plus the leader is a pimp who nails birds for a laff If you mean Limp Biscuit he's actually not their leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 If you mean Limp Biscuit he's actually not their leader. Nick Clegg said he had nailed bout 30 chicas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 I will actually vote for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 17 September, 2008 Share Posted 17 September, 2008 I will actually vote for this guy. Thats swung it for me Im gonna too, might make a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 If only all the people who don't vote Lib Dem "because they'll never get in" actually did vote for them, I reckon they'd win by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2008 If only all the people who don't vote Lib Dem "because they'll never get in" actually did vote for them, I reckon they'd win by a landslide. Not necessarily. The first past the post voting system disadvantages them as they simply don't have enough solid first choice support in enough constituencies. At a general election (though not a bye election as we have seen recently) both Labour and Conservative have many more natural seats than the LDs who basically suffer from a lack of identifying ideology, an ideology that would enable them to also have as many natural seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I remember Nick Clegg when he was in Kajagoogoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I'm voting, they're backing safe standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Not necessarily. The first past the post voting system disadvantages them as they simply don't have enough solid first choice support in enough constituencies. At a general election (though not a bye election as we have seen recently) both Labour and Conservative have many more natural seats than the LDs who basically suffer from a lack of identifying ideology, an ideology that would enable them to also have as many natural seats. That's their biggest problem IMO. A lot of what they say appeals to a long-time leftie like me but the problem is they appear to change their tune depending on current events - bandwagoners of the highest order. I remember in years gone by, when I was a very active member of Eastleigh Labour Party, how one LD councillor would say one thing and another LD would spout opposite opinions at the hustings. If I knew where they stood on every issue I might consider voting for them (added bonus - I'd be voting against one D. Chameleon in my constituency). At least I recognise and reject the basic 'principles' of the Tories - look after the rich and sod the rest. With the Libs I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Not necessarily. The first past the post voting system disadvantages them as they simply don't have enough solid first choice support in enough constituencies. At a general election (though not a bye election as we have seen recently) both Labour and Conservative have many more natural seats than the LDs who basically suffer from a lack of identifying ideology, an ideology that would enable them to also have as many natural seats. Well certainly the PR system would favour them. It was meant as a slightly flippant comment as there's no possible way of knowing how many people 'would' vote Lib Dem if all the other people who 'would' vote Lib Dem actually did. Just seems to me that among my circle of aquaintances, from vox pops on the news, even people on here one often hears that comment... 'I'd vote for them but they'll never get in/it'd be a wasted vote' so they end up swinging between Labour and Tory and hating them both. I think the age of the traditional Labour/Tory voter is dying out, and to an extent the safe seat is going with them. And a good thing too. It's not like picking a football team, you're not stuck with them for life. You get to pick the party/candidate who's policies and views best resemble your own and that's extremely likely not to be the same party/candidate for your entire voting life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Bunch of namby-pamby, try to please everyone, toothless, take it up the arse from rentboys, indecisive, ****nuckles. IMHO of course. Clegg has got more chance of a w@nk off the pope than getting elected as PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Liverpool's councill voted worst in the country last year and it was Lib Dem. Im afraid they're a weak party which likes to say it will make Britain better but when given small opportunities, it fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I had a text from Bungle after he was in the hall for the speech. It read: "Yes. Off for lunch now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I had a text from Bungle after he was in the hall for the speech. It read: "Yes. Off for lunch now." Heh. Priorities. That's what being an LD is all about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I had a text from Bungle after he was in the hall for the speech. It read: "Yes. Off for lunch now." Being Lib Dem it will take him an hour to decide what to have and then he will have what the Tory in front of him in the queue chose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Being Lib Dem it will take him an hour to decide what to have and then he will have what the Tory in front of him in the queue chose. Actually, I went for traditional Chinese Dim Sum (including Chicken's Feet, which were awesome) and there were no Tories in sight. I fear I've probably addressed the least important issue on this thread, mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Liverpool's councill voted worst in the country last year and it was Lib Dem. Im afraid they're a weak party which likes to say it will make Britain better but when given small opportunities, it fails. Actually, that isn't true at all. And the way the system works, despite the fact the Council got top marks in a number of categories, they got a black spot for finance, which is still a carry over from years of Labour. It may interest you to know that the Lib Dems run more city Councils than any other political party. Of course, you will pick the one with a small black mark next to it's name, but I do wonder how thorough your research is in: Newcastle, Sheffield, Watford, Burnley etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Sorry but their Pro-EU stance puts me off them, they'd sail us down the Euro/EU-treaty sign up faster than Usain Bolt doing the 100mtrs! So no way i'd vote for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 This explains it all http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7623256.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2008 (edited) Sorry but their Pro-EU stance puts me off them, they'd sail us down the Euro/EU-treaty sign up faster than Usain Bolt doing the 100mtrs! So no way i'd vote for them! In defence of the LDs and Bungle, one of their conference decisions this week was to state that the UK is not is an advantageous position to enter the Euro right now. More research required SES! Personally, I don't know why they have come to that conclusion, it seems to me that with the current financial sector chaos affecting the US and UK particularly, those nations using the Euro are in a relatively good position because of strength of numbers, diversity of GDP and being less reliant overall on financial services as economies! Not what I would call a brave decision by the LDs at all! Edited 18 September, 2008 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2008 This explains it all http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7623256.stm Not rocket science is it though BTF? It's saying those with a fear of the unknown tend to be more right wing as voters! There was a famous study conducted in the '80s that concluded that when the good times roll and society becomes more liberal, Labour tends to benefit. One of its measures was on fashionable length of skirts - when mini skirts and other sexy clothing are in Labour is in the ascendency; when its knee length time, the Tories win. By voting Labour I hope I can force mini skirts into fashion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 I'm voting, they're backing safe standing. That's odd, i'd have thought they'd be sitting on the fence :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September, 2008 that's odd, i'd have thought they'd be sitting on the fence :-) :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 (edited) In defence of the LDs and Bungle, one of their conference decisions this week was to state that the UK is not is an advantageous position to enter the Euro right now. More research required SES! Personally, I don't know why they have come to that conclusion, it seems to me that with the current financial sector chaos affecting the US and UK particularly, those nations using the Euro are in a relatively good position because of strength of numbers, diversity of GDP and being less reliant overall on financial services as economies! Not what I would call a brave decision by the LDs at all!Sorry TOPGUN but politicians spout more sh*te than a cow with the runs! So more research needed and not so guilible TG! Edited 18 September, 2008 by SOTONS EAST SIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 18 September, 2008 Share Posted 18 September, 2008 Even though I have very little knowledge of government and party policies etc, I will be voting for the Lib Dems (in my local election). Mainly because Nick Clegg is a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLYMPIC Posted 19 September, 2008 Share Posted 19 September, 2008 I must admit it will be interesting to see the Lib Dems win the election with only about a 12% share of the vote so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 20 September, 2008 Share Posted 20 September, 2008 The LD's could put suggest any policy and it wouldnt matter their never get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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