Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Interesting watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 (edited) Not much point in that video without the others answers Edited 21 April, 2010 by SuperMikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 (edited) Driving home from work this evening they were talking about Vince Cable on 5 Live. And particularly how he performed under scrutiny in todays show. They suggested VC's previous popularity is in danger if carries on performing like this. That said whilst George "mummys boy" Osbourne is on the podium no-one else is gonna look a bigger ****. Edited 21 April, 2010 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha What a muppet guess you dont like Osbourne Dune but he has never performed as bad as that, I would love Clarke for the torys in that position but I think out of the three there I would have to say Osbourne. Bias I know!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 oh dear.....it is starting to come apart for them it seems now they got into the limelight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha What a muppet guess you dont like Osbourne Dune but he has never performed as bad as that, I would love Clarke for the torys in that position but I think out of the three there I would have to say Osbourne. Bias I know!!!! Rumour has it that senior Tories are fuming about George Osbourne's performances. They're also fuming about Cameron agreeing to do the debates when he didn't have to given the 10 point lead but that's another story. Osbourne is just totally out of his depth - i wouldn't even have him on a parish council let alone in government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 21 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Not an Osborne fan myself. Ken Clarke was the best chancellor this country ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Osbourne makes Cable look like an economic giant. The less said about Darling the better. Whilst I think all tories are c*nts and lower than a skate bast*rd I really cannot understand why Citizen Dave, the ordinary chap, didn't appoint Clarke in place of Osbourne. It's an insane decision. Even us lefties appreciate that Clarke knows what he's on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Ken Clarke was the best chancellor this country ever had. I certainly agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 21 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Not much point in that video without Cable's answers Mikey it is the other's replies that have been edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 21 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Osbourne makes Cable look like an economic giant. The less said about Darling the better. Whilst I think all tories are c*nts and lower than a skate bast*rd I really cannot understand why Citizen Dave, the ordinary chap, didn't appoint Clarke in place of Osbourne. It's an insane decision. Even us lefties appreciate that Clarke knows what he's on about. Ken Clarke like many of us, is a compassionate Tory who believes that you have to create wealth from the private sector to improve services. We have the same aims but not the same method. Like Pompey you cannot just borrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 The only thing about ken I don't like is his involvement with BAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 21 April, 2010 Share Posted 21 April, 2010 Mikey it is the other's replies that have been edited. This is what I meant to say. Thanks Sergei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 Rumour has it that senior Tories are fuming about George Osbourne's performances. They're also fuming about Cameron agreeing to do the debates when he didn't have to given the 10 point lead but that's another story. Osbourne is just totally out of his depth - i wouldn't even have him on a parish council let alone in government. I think having the debate is a good thing, we need a PM to be able to do this and I really think that DC has the potential to be a great PM. I think George was already in that position when Clarke came on board largely to help him therefor any policies will be good. Maybe its a but like Brown showing Darling how to be rubbish but hopefully the other way round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 22 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 22 April, 2010 George Osbourne is supposed to be tye great strategist but has not grasped that he is the weak link. Clarke is getting on and his pro European views would have split the parties if he was chancellor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 Clarke is getting on and his pro European views would have split the parties if he was chancellor You've hit the nail on the head. Personally I'd like to see Hague replacing Osborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 (edited) Osbourne of the little I saw on the news shot Darling down and Cable just looked lost when he actually had to answer rather than pick holes in an idea. I have always liked Hague and he is brilliant at winning a debate. Blair who is good just couldnt handle him Edited 22 April, 2010 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 I think the more the Lib Dems are in the spotlight, the more they will get picked apart for their barmy policies and the tories will rise to power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 Osbourne of the little I saw on the news shot Darling down and Cable just looked lost when he actually had to answer rather than pick holes in an idea. I have always liked Hague and he is brilliant at winning a debate. Blair who is good just couldnt handle him I don't remember that. My memory of Blair is him wiping the table with anyone the Tories put in front of him. Up to this point, both Cameron and Osbourne look like frightened rabbits staring at the headlights, in the televised debates. I don't think the country wants Blair Mk2, all smiles and spin in number ten. The Tories would have been better of electing David Davies as their leader. That said, I think the Liberals have peaked too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 I don't remember that. My memory of Blair is him wiping the table with anyone the Tories put in front of him. Up to this point, both Cameron and Osbourne look like frightened rabbits staring at the headlights, in the televised debates. I don't think the country wants Blair Mk2, all smiles and spin in number ten. The Tories would have been better of electing David Davies as their leader. That said, I think the Liberals have peaked too early. Hague did and Blair changed the amount of time for PMQ's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 Hague did and Blair changed the amount of time for PMQ's I can only recall Hague's monotone getting well beaten in their exchanges, and Blair winning the 2001 election by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 I can only recall Hague's monotone getting well beaten in their exchanges, and Blair winning the 2001 election by a landslide. If you think the majority of voters listen to PMQ I think you are wrong. Blair did the best stitch up of the nation ever, and if you think he is good and a top PM then I feel for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 If you think the majority of voters listen to PMQ I think you are wrong. Blair did the best stitch up of the nation ever, and if you think he is good and a top PM then I feel for you When did I say he was good, or a top PM? I just can't remember Hague coming off better in his exchanges with Blair. Like him or not, the fact is he wiped the floor with the Tories just like Thatcher did to the Labour Party. Blair, like Thatcher, was in power for too long and let it go to his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 April, 2010 Share Posted 22 April, 2010 William Hague went for the leadership too early, the Tories should have held their nose and gone with Clarke after '97. Personally I would have liked to see David Davis lead the party, but would settle for Portillo or Hague. It's a pity that the rabid right of the party didn't do what the Labour left did with Blair and tolerate one of Clarke or Portillo. I guess their principles are to be admired in some way, but it certainly have a negitive efect on the Party nationally. Ken Clarke made some very telling observations about Cable the other morning. He said he'd known him for years and that he agreed with 80% of what Cable said, and had done for years. However, he said he couldn't believe Cable had let himself get signed up to this income tax cut and that it was pressure for the leadership that forced it on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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