Window Cleaner Posted 25 October, 2010 Share Posted 25 October, 2010 I see that the ball is different since the start of this season. Would this in any way explain why we are skying so many over the bar of late?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 25 October, 2010 Share Posted 25 October, 2010 No, it's because our players are always leaning back. Lambert, Morgan Schneeeebley, and Puncheon especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 25 October, 2010 Share Posted 25 October, 2010 I see that the ball is different since the start of this season. Would this in any way explain why we are skying so many over the bar of late?? David James describes it as trying to kick a shot put so its heavier than the prem balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2010 No, it's because our players are always leaning back. Lambert, Morgan Schneeeebley, and Puncheon especially. and why would they suddenly all be doing that, because the ball is heavier and they need to put more force onto it perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 25 October, 2010 Share Posted 25 October, 2010 I am not sure about this as I have seen some cracking strikes this season in our league. A few against us!! Just need some shooting practice... sounds like the World Cup excuses again to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 25 October, 2010 Share Posted 25 October, 2010 Schneiderlin and Puncheon's long range shooting is awful, they need to work on that if they're going to decide to take pot-shots like that. Not sure you can blame the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 25 October, 2010 Share Posted 25 October, 2010 and why would they suddenly all be doing that, because the ball is heavier and they need to put more force onto it perhaps. It's only new for Rickie Lambbhuna to be honest, MS & JP's shooting has always been poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Law 2 specifies that the ball should have a circumference of 68-70 cm (27-28 in), a (dry) weight 410-450 g (14-16 oz), inflated to a pressure of 0.6 to 1.1 atmospheres (59-108 kPa, 8.6-15.7 psi) "at sea level", and covered in leather or "other suitable material". An extra 2 oz weight max is hardly making it like a shot put. However the pressure can make a big difference, and if inflated to its max might make it feel like iron. But they're all pussies today. Ask Geoff Astle. Oh, he died of illness brought on by brain damage from excessive heading of a wet 1950s/1960s shot put, sorry, football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 An extra 2 oz weight max is hardly making it like a shot put. However the pressure can make a big difference, and if inflated to its max might make it feel like iron. But they're all pussies today. Ask Geoff Astle. Oh, he died of illness brought on by brain damage from excessive heading of a wet 1950s/1960s shot put, sorry, football. Having played with the old real leather mitre ball in the 80s/90s that youd struggle to get to the halfway line and the new balls that feel soft and can hit from box to box, theres a massive difference between the 2 and it doesnt even feel like its for the same sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Ah the good old days the plain old white mitre football was a great ball in my time,couldn`t really tell you what these new balls are like probably like balloons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Sorry just came to me,Minerva they used to be a good ball back in the day dont know if they still make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Mitre have always made more solid balls than the likes of Nike or Adidas, when we used the first Championship balls at St Mary's a couple of seasons back for the first Forum game they were absolutely spot on, I doubt Mitre would risk their reputation as "proper" football makers just because Nike and adidas make lighter balls. I've allso played footy with a bunch of people off this Forum and can confirm from painful experience that the under-25s at least love a crappy coloured balloon over a decent match ball. In various matches I've bought or used the match ball Professional standard (i.e. not replica) adidas Questra 1994 World Cup ball, the Mitre Pro-100 (England ball from circa 2005) and Nike T90 Omni Serie A ball from 2008, and the Mitre one is the most solid of all of them. The Questra bounced around a bit too much and the T90 is a little too easy to put over the bar. Oh, and I got to use a World Cup standard Jabulani in the summer, it was ridiculous, every air pass was overhit, the thing just launched off your boot and was really difficult to measure - and that was at sea-level, not altitude . So, in summary, haven't used a Tensile, but the equivalent ball 18 months ago was solid, and the equivalent Prem ball as used in Serie A is a bit light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 Always preferred Mitre's myself too, especially the old Mitre Delta's. You hit them, they stay hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 October, 2010 Share Posted 27 October, 2010 What about if you kick them Minty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 28 October, 2010 Share Posted 28 October, 2010 FWIW, last year's Mitre ball was brilliant. I'm a keeper and it's flight was a lot more predictable than the new Nike or Adidas balls and it would still sail miles from a goal kick. Luckily the league I play in still uses last years ball, but with the Combined Counties League branding on it (if you can call the Combined Counties League a "brand"??!?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 October, 2010 Share Posted 29 October, 2010 (edited) Always preferred Mitre's myself too, especially the old Mitre Delta's. You hit them, they stay hit. There's a Mitre Delta 1990 Football League retro ball out at the moment if you want to go crazy... Of course, Mitre didn't go to the large chevrons until the mid 90s, by which time this "Delta"-style ball had been superseded by the Ultimax (hence the rebranding), so the whole concept is flawed, but I guess they want their branding to be consistent. Though in my eyes it's kinda like putting out a Patrick-style Saints retro kit and sticking FRIENDS PROVIDENT across it, but then I've always been about the detail... I remember the white version of this 18 paneller without the Marksman labelling being the preferred ball in my school circa 1980 when I started playing... (and also very similar to the second-rate Minerva mentioned above). Like heading a rock if it was pumped up "correctly". Edited 29 October, 2010 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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