JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 When was it? I say it was The Falklands Conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 When Tony the Tiger said it was. when this happened... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 when this happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The Iranian Embassy Siege is another fine example of our boys kicking ass... I was one at the time however...i'll have to give this some thought... I'm not sure being good at a sport makes for greatness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I guess it depends on how you value 'Great'. :smt102 Great at sport Great at war Great at the performing arts Great at invention Great at democracy and civil liberties Dunno :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The Olympics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I guess it depends on how you value 'Great'. :smt102 Great at sport Great at war Great at the performing arts Great at invention Great at democracy and civil liberties Dunno :confused: Just what makes you think and feel we are Great. Maybe you could feel great from exterminating scum from our streets by way of lethal injection? Not just any old criminals, mainly for dropping litter and other serious stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I regularly think Britain is Great. Usually when I read about our humanitarian efforts in the third world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I tend to think that Britain is great when seeing the staggering beauty that abounds in it. We have some of the most beautiful countryside,coastlines, downland and architecture in the world. The "real" British people (not based on race or religion etc) are the most friendly and tolerant on earth. All of this makes Britain "Great". What spoils it though is the cheapening of values, the lack of discipline and respect and the selfish, "F*** You" society that has developed in recent years. It will all, sadly, end in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I tend to think that Britain is great when seeing the staggering beauty that abounds in it. We have some of the most beautiful countryside,coastlines, downland and architecture in the world. The "real" British people (not based on race or religion etc) are the most friendly and tolerant on earth. All of this makes Britain "Great". What spoils it though is the cheapening of values, the lack of discipline and respect and the selfish, "F*** You" society that has developed in recent years. It will all, sadly, end in tears. Stephen Fry said something on TV once that hit home to me. He said we now have a generation of people that grew up knowing the law couldn't touch them and that have never been spanked in school or had a clout around the back of their heads by their parents. On top of this we also have a rising of Chav culture. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I always think Britain is great. Would hate to be anywhere else. People just complain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I always think Britain is great. Would hate to be anywhere else. People just complain too much. Stop moaning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I think cynicism is part of what makes Britain great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The nations School system, particulalry its ability to issue discipline made it one of the best in the world. The rise of political correctness over common sense is destroying this country though, the minority of idiots are winning over the good intentioned majority and are crafting a society which lets you get away with murder if you 'know your rights.' The last time I thought Britain was great was the last time I went on holiday, it was so easy to escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The nations School system, particulalry its ability to issue discipline made it one of the best in the world. The rise of political correctness over common sense is destroying this country though, the minority of idiots are winning over the good intentioned majority and are crafting a society which lets you get away with murder if you 'know your rights.' The last time I thought Britain was great was the last time I went on holiday, it was so easy to escape. You chose to live in Coventry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I think Britain is great when things like Live Aid are born in Britain. I think Britain is great when our comedy and literature set the standard for other countries. I think Britain is great when I see how our language has become the world's dominant language. I think Britain is great when I see that the BBC is still by far the best quality television channel available. I think Britain is great when I visit beautifully protected and unspoilt areas like the Lake District. There far too many things I don't like though and most of them are connected to the sort of people who harp on about making Britain great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barfy Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 It's difficult to pinpoint an exact time. Obviously the Falklands and the Iranian embassy were examples of what we are capable of, but I tend to look at the British mentality as something that makes Britain great. For example during the London bombings, people weren't running around like headless chickens expecting the world to end, instead those that weren't helping seemed more interested in where they could get a cup of tea to tide them over until a bus turned up to take them home. I wouldn't be able to find them now, but I remember reading a few blogs at the time, and through all of the tragedy the typically cynical, dark British sense of humour really shone through. Other things that I personally think make Britain great include: -The legal system on the whole and the way it protects individual's freedoms and rights (not getting into the P.C. argument though) - The NHS, even with it's current difficulties. - The BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 falklands was the last time we were "great"..... the fighting in afghan is also up there but only really a half hearted effort by the government which is very annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 (edited) I tend to think that Britain is great when seeing the staggering beauty that abounds in it. We have some of the most beautiful countryside,coastlines, downland and architecture in the world. The "real" British people (not based on race or religion etc) are the most friendly and tolerant on earth. All of this makes Britain "Great". What spoils it though is the cheapening of values, the lack of discipline and respect and the selfish, "F*** You" society that has developed in recent years. It will all, sadly, end in tears. Actually this society did not start in recent years, more like 29 years, five months and 18 days ago! http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/4/newsid_2503000/2503195.stm Edited 22 October, 2008 by EastleighSoulBoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Actually this society did not start in recent years, more like 29 years, five months and 18 days ago! http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/4/newsid_2503000/2503195.stm one day...just one day..the current people in power will not be able to hide behind maggie...especially after over 11 years in power... just one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Everything we have achieved in our illustrious history looks insignificant after someone has replaced every line in Bohemian Rhapsody with footballer's names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I regularly think Britain is Great. Usually when I read about our humanitarian efforts in the third world. I agree Personally I take no pride in out defeat and killing of members of another nation that was considerablly poorer than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Are we just known as Britain now then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I agree Personally I take no pride in out defeat and killing of members of another nation that was considerablly poorer than us Why not? We didn't start the conflict. We gave plenty of warnings and when it came to it, with a much smaller army and navy, we kicked arse. I am well proud of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Why not? We didn't start the conflict. We gave plenty of warnings and when it came to it, with a much smaller army and navy, we kicked arse. I am well proud of them. Regardless of which group of politicians decided to start it, it left thousands of innocent men, most who would have cared/understood very little about what was happening, dead. I feel no pride, just sadness for those that needlessly lost their lives so others could attempt to increase their own political standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I just wish people would stop moaning about this country. It's pretty much better than any in world. When will people realise this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Regardless of which group of politicians decided to start it, it left thousands of innocent men, most who would have cared/understood very little about what was happening, dead. I feel no pride, just sadness for those that needlessly lost their lives so others could attempt to increase their own political standing.[/quote] This sounds familiar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I just wish people would stop moaning about this country. It's pretty much better than any in world. When will people realise this? Absolutely agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Regardless of which group of politicians decided to start it, it left thousands of innocent men, most who would have cared/understood very little about what was happening, dead. I feel no pride, just sadness for those that needlessly lost their lives so others could attempt to increase their own political standing.[/quote] This sounds familiar! Come on, it's a bit much to expect politician to remember what happened in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Regardless of which group of politicians decided to start it, it left thousands of innocent men, most who would have cared/understood very little about what was happening, dead. I feel no pride, just sadness for those that needlessly lost their lives so others could attempt to increase their own political standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah, and I do get your point, but not to forget that our boys put their necks on the line to defend the British people living there. Yes, they may have been "used" by the government to do a job but they did it very well and for that I am proud of them. Having been there I think the locals are head mental to be living in that hell hole, but that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 It's the same with the BBC, people are quick to moan about it, but they don't realise that they have a really good service. They are first the shout for the liscence fee to be cut(which I think is a very resonable price for what the BBC provide us), and they will be the first to moan when the BBC declines and services like Iplayer and so on disappear. Murdoch must be laughing in glee at all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah, and I do get your point, but not to forget that our boys put their necks on the line to defend the British people living there. Yes, they may have been "used" by the government to do a job but they did it very well and for that I am proud of them. Having been there I think the locals are head mental to be living in that hell hole, but that's another story. I alos understand the poin that you are making. Our troops carried out their job very efficiently to protect rights of British citizens who wished to remain so. I can not go as far as pride though. Not in the face of so much needless suffering of both our troops and theirs. I have felt great pride in our nation over the last few years. The way the Londoners pulled together after the bombings made me very proud to be British. I remember listening to the radio that day hearing stories about people opening up their homes to people stranded, people getting in their cars and offering a free taxi service to people that couldn't get home. It helped to restore my faith in humanity on such a dreadfull day. People like that make our country great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 October, 2008 It's the same with the BBC, people are quick to moan about it, but they don't realise that they have a really good service. They are first the shout for the liscence fee to be cut(which I think is a very resonable price for what the BBC provide us), and they will be the first to moan when the BBC declines and services like Iplayer and so on disappear. Murdoch must be laughing in glee at all this. I could not agree with you less. The BBC is a very good service, but why should it be paid for by a license which is nothing short of a tax. Based purely on us being British and wanting the now common commodity of a TV this iconic company believes it can hold us all to ransom to pay for a service even if we say we don't watch it. What makes them so unique that they cannot trade on their own success in the same way that commercial TV has to? I detest the arrogance of the people in charge of the BBC who assume this is acceptable. It is archaic and will someday soon seem as wrong as the idea of being able to smoke in the company of strangers in pubs and inflict your disease ridden habit upon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I could not agree with you less. The BBC is a very good service, but why should it be paid for by a license which is nothing short of a tax. Based purely on us being British and wanting the now common commodity of a TV this iconic company believes it can hold us all to ransom to pay for a service even if we say we don't watch it. What makes them so unique that they cannot trade on their own success in the same way that commercial TV has to? I detest the arrogance of the people in charge of the BBC who assume this is acceptable. It is archaic and will someday soon seem as wrong as the idea of being able to smoke in the company of strangers in pubs and inflict your disease ridden habit upon them. I could not agree with you less. The BBC is something we should be genuinely proud of. In some ways you are right when you compare the license fee to a tax but that doesn't make it a bad thing. The commercialisation of the BBC would lead to it being accountable to shareholders as opposed to the public and content would follow similar lines to that of other channels. Look at the standard of regional output on ITV now compared to ten years ago, because it is not a massive commercially exploitable opportunity the shareholders have lost interest and the quality has slipped to a fraction of that the BBC puts out. The BBC will always be obliged to create regional news and the like because they are duty bound to do so. The same can be said of children's television, because it is cheaper to import the commercial sector no longer make anywhere near the same amount they used to. The BBC however continues to do so and is duty bound to do so. The same can be said of many genres like documentary and British drama. One only has to have watched the multitude of news platforms available to the Americans to appreciate how important unbiased news coverage is as well. Channel Four is a brilliant example of why balancing public interest and commercial interest does not work. It is not without its faults but I really, really hope I don't see the day the beeb is wound up or privatised because people resent paying the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I could not agree with BBC3 taking Family Guy out of it's schedules recently...especially when i look at the rest of their programming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 the idea of the BBC as a whole is very out dated and belong in the last century.. why oh why is there so many BBC channels...why oh why do we pay for (unts like moyles to **** up in LA to present the same show...does the BBC really need so many radio stations??? the BBC are by far the worst culprits for having 5 people doing 2 peoples jobs.. the presenters on BBC radio dont tend to have an opinion and are generally bland. Eastenders (their prime ****e) is truely awful... one good thing, they will soon be getting F1 back i guess.... the day I dont have to pay for a license fee will be a great one..I hardly watch the beeb and resent paying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I could not agree with BBC3 taking Family Guy out of it's schedules recently...especially when i look at the rest of their programming... It all depends on what you like though, BBC3 and BBC4 are for much more specific audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 It all depends on what you like though, BBC3 and BBC4 are for much more specific audiences. I like watching Family Guy...as i said... I understand your point though... People that enjoy shows like Coming of Age, Two Packets of Lager and Massive need sterilising... It's not all bad though...but letting 14 year olds write sitcoms should probably be stopped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 the idea of the BBC as a whole is very out dated and belong in the last century.. why oh why is there so many BBC channels...why oh why do we pay for (unts like moyles to **** up in LA to present the same show... the BBC are by far the worst culprits for having 5 people doing 2 peoples jobs.. the presenters on BBC radio dont tend to have an opinion and are generally bland. Eastenders (their prime ****e) is truely awful... one good thing, they will soon be getting F1 back i guess.... the day I dont have to pay for a license fee will be a great one..I hardly watch the beeb and resent paying it You are exactly what Murdoch wants. In my opinion, the second we destroy the BBC is the time when stuff like SKY becomes the only option and lets face it... sky is ****e. If you go anywhere else in the world, the BBC is considered the best, we just don't know what we have. I think an old saying comes in here, 'You don't know what you have until you lose it' and this is the exactly the case here. For quality comparison, just look at the BBC's premiership highlights compared to ITV's version of it. I mean, I've watched foreign tv, and I have to say compared to the BBC, it is crap. We don't want to destroy the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 You are exactly what Murdoch wants. In my opinion, the second we destroy the BBC is the time when stuff like SKY becomes the only option and lets face it... sky is ****e. If you go anywhere else in the world, the BBC is considered the best, we just don't know what we have. I think an old saying comes in here, 'You don't know what you have until you lose it' and this is the exactly the case here. For quality comparison, just look at the BBC's premiership highlights compared to ITV's version of it. I mean, I've watched foreign tv, and I have to say compared to the BBC, it is crap. We don't want to destroy the BBC. what makes the BBC the best in the world then...seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I like watching Family Guy...as i said... I understand your point though... People that enjoy shows like Coming of Age, Two Packets of Lager and Massive need sterilising... It's not all bad though...but letting 14 year olds write sitcoms should probably be stopped... To be honest, I don't watch that much of BBC3 either, but I know it appeals to alot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The BBC needs streamlining. Big Time. It could easily lose 25% of its staff. It could easily reduce running costs as well. It pays well over market odds in particular for it's IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 our humor is what makes us great ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 what makes the BBC the best in the world then...seriously. The programs, coverage of events, correspondants, camera work(editing stuff like that) variety. I could go on. Seriously, just try and sit through a day of American TV. It's laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 I was under the impression that Britain is great as in large to distinguish it from Brittany. Grande Bretagne etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 The programs, coverage of events, correspondants, camera work(editing stuff like that) variety. I could go on. Seriously, just try and sit through a day of American TV. It's laughable. what programmes...seriously..what programmes make the BBC world class.. top gear they SELL to other countries....the office maybe red dwarf was tried once..what programmes make the BBC the best in the WORLD??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barfy Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 what makes the BBC the best in the world then...seriously. 1. No adverts 2. It's publicly funded and as such is accountable for it's actions. 3. No adverts 4. Due to the fact that it is not having to be commercially competitive, it can take a few more risks in terms of programming. Had it been commercial, for example, they may not have brought Dr Who back (whether you like it or not, it was a success). 5. No adverts 6. It's recognised the world over for the quality of it's news reporting, and when compared to something like Fox News (watch it if you have Sky), ITN or Sky News it is almost completely unbiased. 7. No adverts (did you see that coming) 8. It is at the forefront of developing new technologies for watching TV. There has been talk about opening it's full archives for viewing online. 9. Test Match Special - Essential summer listening 10. The World Service 11. It's £10 per month, 25% of the cost of Sky (with Sports) and in 4 TV channels there's probably more watchable content than the other 6 or 700 channels put together. 12. If you live in the Look East region, theres always Janine Machin http://www.bbc.co.uk/lookeast/content/articles/2007/05/21/janine_machin_feature.shtml 13. They don't have 10-15 minutes of adverts per hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 what programmes...seriously..what programmes make the BBC world class.. top gear they SELL to other countries....the office maybe red dwarf was tried once..what programmes make the BBC the best in the WORLD??? It's only one more example but The Blue Planet. That was also sold worldwide by BBC World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 what programmes...seriously..what programmes make the BBC world class.. top gear they SELL to other countries....the office maybe red dwarf was tried once..what programmes make the BBC the best in the WORLD??? Stuff like Planet Earth. Now, I know this might not appeal to you, but stuff like that,, the wuality of image was amazing. The news is pretty damn good here, and question time while we are in that area as well as newsnight. On comedy, now I know Little Britain isn't everyones cup of tea, but it was a pretty different comedy. Documentaries, been some excellent ones over the years. Coverage of events, the olympics was superb. Edit: I see Barfy put some decent points across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 22 October, 2008 Share Posted 22 October, 2008 Amazon is compelling viewing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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