ecuk268 Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Anyone ever used it? I'm in dispute with a company over a service that they cocked up. They're refusing to refund me and even contradicting their own literature. The amount of money in dispute is relatively small, it's more a point of principle than the money. Is it easy and, in the unlikely event that I lose, how much could it cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Yes, twice. Won both times. It is easy although a little nerve wracking. As far as costs go, the defendants wont be allowed to stuff you with legal charges if you lose - it's not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 (edited) Anyone ever used it? I'm in dispute with a company over a service that they cocked up. They're refusing to refund me and even contradicting their own literature. The amount of money in dispute is relatively small, it's more a point of principle than the money. Is it easy and, in the unlikely event that I lose, how much could it cost? my brother has used it twice and it did not cost alot of money and he won both cases, has the people he took to court backed down a day before the cases . Edited 27 July, 2011 by solentstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Anyone ever used it? I'm in dispute with a company over a service that they cocked up. They're refusing to refund me and even contradicting their own literature. The amount of money in dispute is relatively small, it's more a point of principle than the money. Is it easy and, in the unlikely event that I lose, how much could it cost? Look, the gimp mask and rubber pants were exactly as advertised on the card in the phone box, alright? Seriously though, it's easy and inexpensive. I've tried it once, but they coughed up as soon as i notified them of the intention. Sometimes you find that the threat is enough. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 If you are black, gay or a muslim... you will win... its a simple as that. Also, dont get greedy. If you ask for more than £6k the company accused will employ a legal team to squash you. Any less than that amount and it is not worth a companies time and cost. Ask for a couple of grand and you will likely see the company give in and pay out before it goes to court - as the costs of hauling directors to court, taking staff out the business, and having to prepare a defence will cost them a lot more than that... Small Claims Courts are a cracking way to **** over small companies! (Also good for pathetic and meaningless disputes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 If you are black, gay or a muslim... you will win... its a simple as that. But what if he's black and gay, but the firm he's taking to court is run by a gay Muslim? Who would outscore whom in those circumstances? Perhaps he could convert, so he'd then tick all three boxes - I think that would probably do the trick. But do they check these things before the case starts - after all, you wouldn't want to lose and then realise you'd forgotten to mention your religion or sexuality (I'm assuming they'll notice skin colour). It does all sound a bit complicated to me, I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 27 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2011 I'm actually a one-legged lesbian single mother asylum-seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 If you are black, gay or a muslim... you will win... its a simple as that. Also, dont get greedy. If you ask for more than £6k the company accused will employ a legal team to squash you. Any less than that amount and it is not worth a companies time and cost. Ask for a couple of grand and you will likely see the company give in and pay out before it goes to court - as the costs of hauling directors to court, taking staff out the business, and having to prepare a defence will cost them a lot more than that... Small Claims Courts are a cracking way to **** over small companies! (Also good for pathetic and meaningless disputes) Most of the time it's the companies taking individuals to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 But what if he's black and gay, but the firm he's taking to court is run by a gay Muslim? Who would outscore whom in those circumstances? Perhaps he could convert, so he'd then tick all three boxes - I think that would probably do the trick. But do they check these things before the case starts - after all, you wouldn't want to lose and then realise you'd forgotten to mention your religion or sexuality (I'm assuming they'll notice skin colour). It does all sound a bit complicated to me, I must say. Dont be ridiculous shirley. I dont hold punches and the above is real advice. To clarify further, if the claiment is black, gay or a muslim, and the defendent is a UK SME = They will lose! (The SME that is) - weve even run books on the outcome before! Time and time again... sorry if it dosent sit too well with you but that is the system and that is what happens. I dont really care, but it certainly would make me very uneasy if I were a small business owner, or an employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Dont be ridiculous shirley. I dont hold punches and the above is real advice. To clarify further, if the claiment is black, gay or a muslim, and the defendent is a UK SME = They will lose! (The SME that is) - weve even run books on the outcome before! Time and time again... sorry if it dosent sit too well with you but that is the system and that is what happens. I dont really care, but it certainly would make me very uneasy if I were a small business owner, or an employer. Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 (edited) https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome I used this service, it's cheap,Govt run and pretty good, they'll advise as best they can on the phone. I didn't need to attend court because the other party didn't respond to any correspondance from the court. The case found in my favour and it went to Bailiffs. I ended up with nothing because the Company went bang and were a Ltd Company, so you have to weigh up whether it's worth it. I ended up about £300 out of pocket, but the cowboys ended up closed down and unable to rip others off. The advice MCOL gave me over the phone was that a Company that intends to keep trading will always settle, whereas if the business is on it's last legs you may not get anything. However, they (MCOL) will follow it through right till the end. Edited 27 July, 2011 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Dont be ridiculous shirley. I dont hold punches and the above is real advice. To clarify further, if the claiment is black, gay or a muslim, and the defendent is a UK SME = They will lose! (The SME that is) - weve even run books on the outcome before! Time and time again... sorry if it dosent sit too well with you but that is the system and that is what happens. I dont really care, but it certainly would make me very uneasy if I were a small business owner, or an employer. Who exactly are 'we' in this instance? And what other things did you consider? Strength of claim perhaps? Any other thing that might legitimately affect the outcome? Have you run the same rigorous research on the chances of a white, straight, Christian getting the outcome they require? Are claimants or defendants asked their religion or sexuality? If not, then how do you know what either of those things is? Oh, and what's a UK SME? I can get the UK bit, but I've never come across the SME before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Who exactly are 'we' in this instance? And what other things did you consider? Strength of claim perhaps? Any other thing that might legitimately affect the outcome? Have you run the same rigorous research on the chances of a white, straight, Christian getting the outcome they require? Are claimants or defendants asked their religion or sexuality? If not, then how do you know what either of those things is? Oh, and what's a UK SME? I can get the UK bit, but I've never come across the SME before. I didn't get that either, but didn't spend any more time worrying about it because it was part of what was obviously (to me at least) a gormlessly racist post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Dont be ridiculous shirley. I dont hold punches and the above is real advice. To clarify further, if the claiment is black, gay or a muslim, and the defendent is a UK SME = They will lose! (The SME that is) - weve even run books on the outcome before! Time and time again... sorry if it dosent sit too well with you but that is the system and that is what happens. I dont really care, but it certainly would make me very uneasy if I were a small business owner, or an employer. What an absolute load of scheisse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 I've used this before (on behalf of a daughter). I submitted a 'joint and several liability' case against a road repair contractor and the County Council. The County Council admitted liability (and presumably counter-sued the contractor) before it got to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 I threatened to take the 'Mayflower' theatre to small claims for canceling 'We Will Rock You' on the night we went! It took about a week of correspondence, but they eventually paid up in full. Looks like I'll be making the same threats to the removals company that moved us last week and managed to make a hole in the brand new lino we'd had put into the kitchen! More than happy to go to court and defend my point of view, especially if the company concerned is being run by muppets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 27 July, 2011 Share Posted 27 July, 2011 Sorry to divert the thread, just ranting a few recent anecdotes that left me bemused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 28 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2011 Thanks for the advice everyone. I sent them a letter notifying them of my intentions and they've now paid up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 July, 2011 Share Posted 28 July, 2011 Dont be ridiculous shirley. I dont hold punches and the above is real advice. To clarify further, if the claiment is black, gay or a muslim, and the defendent is a UK SME = They will lose! (The SME that is) - weve even run books on the outcome before! Time and time again... sorry if it dosent sit too well with you but that is the system and that is what happens. I dont really care, but it certainly would make me very uneasy if I were a small business owner, or an employer. What a crock of ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 Thanks for the advice everyone. I sent them a letter notifying them of my intentions and they've now paid up. Reeeeesult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upwind Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 UK SME................. I'm still trying to work it out..? UK = United Kingdom............I'm guessing SME = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 Thanks for the advice everyone. I sent them a letter notifying them of my intentions and they've now paid up. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 UK SME................. I'm still trying to work it out..? UK = United Kingdom............I'm guessing SME = ? Small/Medium Enterprise (i.e. a small firm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I threatened to take the 'Mayflower' theatre to small claims for canceling 'We Will Rock You' on the night we went! It took about a week of correspondence, but they eventually paid up in full. Looks like I'll be making the same threats to the removals company that moved us last week and managed to make a hole in the brand new lino we'd had put into the kitchen! More than happy to go to court and defend my point of view, especially if the company concerned is being run by muppets! Done. Since the removals company are refusing to respond to any contact I've made to them regarding the damage they caused, I've lodged a complaint for appx £300 with the online service. Have to be honest, it's a really simple procedure to follow, let's hope it gets the right result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Done. Since the removals company are refusing to respond to any contact I've made to them regarding the damage they caused, I've lodged a complaint for appx £300 with the online service. Have to be honest, it's a really simple procedure to follow, let's hope it gets the right result Good for you and I expect you will win the case Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 18 Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Done. Since the removals company are refusing to respond to any contact I've made to them regarding the damage they caused, I've lodged a complaint for appx £300 with the online service. Have to be honest, it's a really simple procedure to follow, let's hope it gets the right result I used that service, very good, very easy to use. Went to court, won my case, guy never paid up, filed for ballifs, got that approved. the baillifs failed to make contact within 30 days I was told I would have to file again, which is fine, if you want to spend £100 each time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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