Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: And just out of interest how many people looked at it and didnβt like it?Β My message has been viewed over 27k times so far so getting close to St Maryβs capacity, with 260 likes currently. Just because someone hasn't clicked the like button it doesn't mean they don't like it and there is no dislike button. So impossible to tell how those 27k people spilt on the idea. I did say it would split the fanbase in the message. Edited April 20 by Matthew Le God 3
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 0.009% ππππππππππππ Β
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: 0.009% ππππππππππππ 1) Maths clearly not your strong point! The actual % is 0.96% 2) Just because someone hasn't clicked the like button it doesn't mean they don't like it and there is no dislike button. So impossible to tell how those 27k people spilt on the idea. I did say it would split the fanbase in the message. 3) Plus it was clearly a jokey post as I even named the fallacy with a wink in the post.Β (Argumentum ad populum π) 2
BarberSaint Posted April 20 Posted April 20 33 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: My message has been viewed over 27k times so far so getting close to St Maryβs capacity, with 260 likes currently. Just because someone hasn't clicked the like button it doesn't mean they don't like it and there is no dislike button. So impossible to tell how those 27k people spilt on the idea. I did say it would split the fanbase in the message. Β I disliked it. Β And only my vote counts. Β
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 Itβs definitely split the fan base, 99+% v -1% Β πππππ Β you could argue itβs been a long time since the fan base has been so united mind πππππ
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) 4 hours ago, Turkish said: Itβs definitely split the fan base, 99+% v -1% Β πππππ Β you could argue itβs been a long time since the fan base has been so united mind πππππ 1) Are you still recovering from your maths fail? Big difference from your 0.009% and the actual answer of 0.96% 2) Why are you unable to grasp that not clicking like on a post on X does not mean you don't agree with it? Edited April 20 by Matthew Le God
badgerx16 Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Β 2) Why are you unable to grasp that not clicking like on a post on X does not mean you don't agree with it? But it could be that everybody who read the post and didn't click on it thought it is bollox. Without a "dislike" button tere is no way to quantify the ratio of responses, and even then there would be a proportion who don't respond. The real answer lies somewhere between you and Turkish, so neither of you gets a putty medal.
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: 1) Are you still recovering from your maths fail? Big difference from your 0.009% and the actual answer of 0.96% 2) Why are you unable to grasp that not clicking like on a post on X does not mean you don't agree with it? Less than 1% π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Less than 1% π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£ Clearly you are confused by 2) and you are unable to grasp 1) 1
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 34 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Clearly you are confused by 2) and you are unable to grasp 1) Β 1
Weston Super Saint Posted April 20 Posted April 20 5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: 1) Are you still recovering from your maths fail? Big difference from your 0.009% and the actual answer of 0.96% 2) Why are you unable to grasp that not clicking like on a post on X does not mean you don't agree with it? Surely in your black and white world, if someone doesn't like something then they don't agree with it. That's just simple logic gates isn't it?
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 23 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Surely in your black and white world, if someone doesn't like something then they don't agree with it. That's just simple logic gates isn't it? Absolute nonsense People can see posts on X/Twitter and not click on the like button. That does not mean they do not agree with that has been said.Β
The Kraken Posted April 20 Posted April 20 And Iβm sure thousands did exactly that in this case, no doubtΒ π
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Absolute nonsense People can see posts on X/Twitter and not click on the like button. That does not mean they do not agree with that has been said.Β It doesnβt mean they agree with it eitherΒ Edited April 20 by Turkish
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 12 minutes ago, Turkish said: It doesnβt mean they agree with it eitherΒ Yet another Turkish strawman fallacy! I know and at no point did I claim they did. You weren't able to grasp it. Β
Weston Super Saint Posted April 20 Posted April 20 21 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Absolute nonsense People can see posts on X/Twitter and not click on the like button. That does not mean they do not agree with that has been said.Β Logic gates dictate the state is either yes (like) or no (don't like). Just because the answer doesn't massage your ego, doesn't mean it is incorrect.
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Logic gates dictate the state is either yes (like) or no (don't like). Just because the answer doesn't massage your ego, doesn't mean it is incorrect. Absolute nonsense. It is not only yes or no for the following reason. People are not under an obligation to click like a post on Twitter/X and there is no opposite button to dislike a post. Simply not clicking like on a post does not mean you dislike it or don't agree with it. It simply means you didn't click like. Puzzling how you can't grasp that. Edited April 20 by Matthew Le God
Weston Super Saint Posted April 20 Posted April 20 16 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Absolute nonsense. It is not only yes or no for the following reason. People are not under an obligation to click like a post on Twitter/X and there is no opposite button to dislike a post. Simply not clicking like on a post does not mean you dislike it or don't agree with it. It simply means you didn't click like. Puzzling how you can't grasp that. Your argument would hold water if there was a dislike button. There isn't as you agree. Therefore everyone not liking a post, by default, is against it. Very simple logic. I thought you were a logical person. Apparently you aren't.
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Your argument would hold water if there was a dislike button. There isn't as you agree. Therefore everyone not liking a post, by default, is against it. Very simple logic. I thought you were a logical person. Apparently you aren't. Utter, utter nonsense. Not clicking like on a post does not mean you dislike it or don't agree with it. It simply means you didn't click like.Β Saints Web forum also has a like button and no dislike button. You read hundreds of posts on here, do you dislike every post you read on this forum that you don't click the like button on? 1
The Kraken Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints Web forum also has a like button Technically itβs a love button (or a heart ). Which is not the same. Edited April 20 by The Kraken 1
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 3 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Technically itβs a love button (or a heart ). Which is not the same. The buttons on Saints Web and Twitter/X are both heart shaped and serve the same purpose. 1
The Kraken Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: The buttons on Saints Web and Twitter/X are both heart shaped and serve the same purpose. Love or like? I mean, itβs a big difference. If less than 1% of people like your post, then thatβs a bit of a tragedy. But, phrasing it differently, if almost 1% of people love your post. Well, thatβs slightly less tragic. It could make such a change in perception. 1
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Love or like? I mean, itβs a big difference. If less than 1% of people like your post, then thatβs a bit of a tragedy. But, phrasing it differently, if almost 1% of people love your post. Well, thatβs slightly less tragic. It could make such a change in perception. - It is a heart shaped button on Twitter - It is a heart shaped button on Saints Web - Whether it is labeled like or love they effectively mean the same thing... that you are in favour of the post. Love and like for such buttons are interchangeable. Edited April 20 by Matthew Le God 1
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 1 minute ago, The Kraken said: Sounds like nonsense to me. You deny the buttons are hearts on both websites?Β Please answer the questions... 1) You read hundreds of posts on Saints Web, do you dislike every post you read on this forum that you don't click the heart button on? 2) If you read hundreds of posts on X, do you dislike every post you read that you don't click the heart button on? 1
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 imagine being someone who over 99% of people who saw your post couldnβt be arsed to respond. They cared so little about it they didnβt even make the effort to respond. The post, your effort and opinion is just there, existing but over 99% of people who came across are so apathetic to it they couldnβt be arsed to take a split second to respond. Imagine being that guyΒ 1
The Kraken Posted April 20 Posted April 20 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Please answer the questions No, thank you, 1
The Kraken Posted April 20 Posted April 20 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: imagine being someone who over 99% of people who saw your post couldnβt be arsed to respond. They cared so little about it they didnβt even make the effort to respond. The post, your effort and opinion is just there, existing but over 99% of people who came across are so apathetic to it they couldnβt be arsed to take a split second to respond. Imagine being that guyΒ Twitter (X) is a cesspit tbf. Iβve had a lifelong aversion to it. Playing for attention in it is awful behaviour IMO. 1
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: imagine being someone who over 99% of people who saw your post couldnβt be arsed to respond. They cared so little about it they didnβt even make the effort to respond. The post, your effort and opinion is just there, existing but over 99% of people who came across are so apathetic to it they couldnβt be arsed to take a split second to respond. Imagine being that guyΒ Be honest... are you on X/Twitter? Yes or no
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Be honest... are you on X/Twitter? Yes or no Yes Iβm on there my last tweet was nearly 5 years ago.Β
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 16 minutes ago, Turkish said: Yes Iβm on there my last tweet was nearly 5 years ago.Β Which of your tweets has the most likes and how many views does it have?
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Which of your tweets has the most likes and how many views does it have? Β 33k views and 10,974 likes ππΌ Edited April 20 by Turkish
Matthew Le God Posted April 20 Posted April 20 39 minutes ago, Turkish said: Β 33k views and 10,974 likes ππΌ Β Link to your X account
Turkish Posted April 20 Author Posted April 20 27 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Β Link to your X account Jealousy is a cruel mistressΒ
Matthew Le God Posted April 21 Posted April 21 4 hours ago, Turkish said: Jealousy is a cruel mistressΒ MLG's demonstrable evidence vs Turkish's world of unsubstantiated claims
Weston Super Saint Posted April 21 Posted April 21 9 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Utter, utter nonsense. Not clicking like on a post does not mean you dislike it or don't agree with it. It simply means you didn't click like.Β Saints Web forum also has a like button and no dislike button. You read hundreds of posts on here, do you dislike every post you read on this forum that you don't click the like button on? Source?
Matthew Le God Posted April 21 Posted April 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Source? Your own forum profile! https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/profile/143-weston-super-saint/ You've been on this forum since 2006 and have made 15k+ posts. Including hundreds of posts where you have quoted other people's posts. Did you not read their posts before quoting them? Edited April 21 by Matthew Le God 1
egg Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I'm torn whether this thread is a contender for the worst in years, or brilliant because of MLG's pluckiness and inability to understand that he's being played like a piano.Β 1
Matthew Le God Posted April 21 Posted April 21 (edited) 10 minutes ago, egg said: I'm torn whether this thread is a contender for the worst in years, or brilliant because of MLG's pluckiness and inability to understand that he's being played like a piano.Β I don't think Turkish works on that level. He makes too many errors. Plus his constant insults reveal his true unpleasantness! Edited April 21 by Matthew Le God
egg Posted April 21 Posted April 21 8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I don't think Turkish works on that level. He makes too many errors. Plus his constant insults reveal his true unpleasantness! Your interpretation of the thread is your interpretation mate. I'm not getting drawn in beyond that.Β
Turkish Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 39 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I don't think Turkish works on that level. He makes too many errors. Plus his constant insults reveal his true unpleasantness! Pretty rich coming from the Gavin Bazunu of football forumsΒ
Turkish Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 What is interesting MLG is boasting about his less than 1% like response rate yet my posts on this threadΒ have generated a far higher percentage of responses than his twitter post and thatβs before we even factor in the people who will like my posts on here who havenβt responded (using MLG logic) as you know as current holder of the most laughing emoji reactions to a single saintsweb post I Β am someone who knows a lot about getting reactions on social media, in addition to my success on here only last week 28% of my Instagram followers responded to a post I made.Β it seems that when it comes to garnering responses on social media yet again Turkish beats MLG πππΎπΎππππππππ
Matthew Le God Posted April 21 Posted April 21 38 minutes ago, Turkish said: What is interesting MLG is boasting about his less than 1% like response rate yet my posts on this threadΒ have generated a far higher percentage of responses than his twitter post and thatβs before we even factor in the people who will like my posts on here who havenβt responded (using MLG logic) as you know as current holder of the most laughing emoji reactions to a single saintsweb post I Β am someone who knows a lot about getting reactions on social media, in addition to my success on here only last week 28% of my Instagram followers responded to a post I made.Β it seems that when it comes to garnering responses on social media yet again Turkish beats MLG πππΎπΎππππππππ Strawman fallacy yet again. Still waiting for a link to your Twitter account. Why won't you provide it?
Turkish Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Strawman fallacy yet again. Still waiting for a link to your Twitter account. Why won't you provide it? Itβs X and i donβt want you following me around on there too!! Β
Matthew Le God Posted April 21 Posted April 21 44 minutes ago, Turkish said: and i donβt want you following me around on there too!! You've got it the around the wrong way!
Weston Super Saint Posted April 21 Posted April 21 8 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Your own forum profile! https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/profile/143-weston-super-saint/ You've been on this forum since 2006 and have made 15k+ posts. Including hundreds of posts where you have quoted other people's posts. Did you not read their posts before quoting them? Writing 15k+ posts doesn't in any way mean I read 100s as you claim. Plenty of posters on here post without reading what others write. Another MLG fail. Β
Farmer Saint Posted April 21 Posted April 21 This thread is great - so many fails all over the place on here from misunderstanding logic gates (there is no absolute on X, it's not Grindr, so not liking a post doesn't mean you dislike it, it can mean you are ambivalent to it, you may not even be able to read it in it's native language), to a like conversion rate of less than 1% being considered anything but abysmal. It really shows what the human mind is capable of π In all seriousness, everyone involved should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
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