Saints 3-1 Birmingham - Match Thread

[Paul_B]

I'm sure it's already been said many times, but 3 goals from 3 shots outside the box! Who knew?? Been such a long time!

[Whitey Grandad]

7 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

It's not just Manning's inability to stop a cross. This moment yesterday sums him up perfectly.

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxr9pOi3mnE29Q0pLsfqGboNvzyeKtU4dk?si=-7kNzcZVeHwcGu1T

He falls over a lot. He's not good to us lying on the ground. There's an old football saying,  "Stay on your feet"

[Danbert]

23 minutes ago, Paul_B said:

I'm sure it's already been said many times, but 3 goals from 3 shots outside the box! Who knew?? Been such a long time!

I thought their keeper was very poor. He was at fault for the second and third goals. And Bazuna actually did really well saving a deflection with his trailing leg.

[davefizzy14]

Absolutely fantastic yesterday we were 😊 we are scoring goals for fun. Leo was sensational again yesterday - he's just an amazing player 😊 Adam Armstrong - another brace for Arma 😊 Azaz - five goals in six games now for Finn 😊 Fellows, Downes, Jander, and the three centre backs were all very good too 😊 Manning was good 😊 Bazunu made some key saves too 😊

Edited yesterday at 17:05 by davefizzy14

[Chez]

3 hours ago, Danbert said:

I thought their keeper was very poor. He was at fault for the second and third goals. And Bazuna actually did really well saving a deflection with his trailing leg.

Spot on. All championship keepers make mistakes. We don't tend to worry about those made by opposing keepers. 

Their keeper also made two absolutely terrific saves (the one tipping it around the post was top class) not to mention preventing Archer score on the one on one.

[Chez]

3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He falls over a lot. He's not good to us lying on the ground. There's an old football saying,  "Stay on your feet"

He dives. Sometimes it gets us out of jail and we are thankful, but every now and then the ref is not conned and we are trouble. Its cheating and I hate seeing our players do it. I guess thats the game these days.

[Tom & Gerry]

26 minutes ago, Chez said:

Spot on. All championship keepers make mistakes. We don't tend to worry about those made by opposing keepers. 

Their keeper also made two absolutely terrific saves (the one tipping it around the post was top class) not to mention preventing Archer score on the one on one.

All players make mistakes. We only notice the ones that aren't covered by a team mate (its a team game) or ones made by a player we don't like.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

2 hours ago, Chez said:

He dives. Sometimes it gets us out of jail and we are thankful, but every now and then the ref is not conned and we are trouble. Its cheating and I hate seeing our players do it. I guess thats the game these days.

I dont think Saints use enough trickery or buy enough fouls so I'm fine with it.

However saying that Manning isn't clever enough to do it and several times has been caught out. He falls over too easily when a tackle is needed instead. 

[skintsaint]

Wanted to see that Aribo yellow on the extended highlights but of course they cut it.

[Badger]

8 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

No they were not moaning about that. The Brum player was fouled a second or 2 before the great tackle. The ref played the advantage and should have pulled it back for the foul. 

Should he ?? As I saw it on their video the ref let the play flow, the fouled player passed or released the ball to a teammate - at this point he’d played the advantage - but the player receiving the ball was then tackled. Should he stop the game at this point, and call it back for their free kick, or is it a second or separate phase of the game ? 

Perhaps the Brum fans think he should have played on, but then brought it back for their free kick if they didn’t eventually score from it.

 

[Chez]

12 hours ago, Badger said:

Should he ?? As I saw it on their video the ref let the play flow, the fouled player passed or released the ball to a teammate - at this point he’d played the advantage - but the player receiving the ball was then tackled. Should he stop the game at this point, and call it back for their free kick, or is it a second or separate phase of the game ? 

Perhaps the Brum fans think he should have played on, but then brought it back for their free kick if they didn’t eventually score from it.

 

The incident is at 6:01.

It's one of those that you can argue either way. He was clearly grabbed by Azaz, he stumbled, got his feet back, then having done so he had to bring the ball back into his stride as it had gone slightly behind him (whilst he was finding his feet) and that touch allowed Downes to close the space and make the tackle. The ref had signalled play on, because Azaz was no longer a factor and Roberts had found his feet, but he immediately lost the ball after he had made the signal. If he has signalled play on, does that prevent him calling it back (I'm never up to speed on the laws of the game)? If not, I don't think Saints fans would have gone mental if he had called it back for the foul. You win some, you lose some. I'm sure we will have one go against us at their place.
 

[Chez]

12 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Wanted to see that Aribo yellow on the extended highlights but of course they cut it.

Did you think it was a red? I was right behind it, so not the best view, but looked like it might have been dangerous/reckless.

[skintsaint]

6 hours ago, Chez said:

Did you think it was a red? I was right behind it, so not the best view, but looked like it might have been dangerous/reckless.

Not seen it which is why I'm interested  

[suewhistle]

When it happened I wasn't entirely sure but wouldn't have been surprised with a red. I was certainly muttering something to myself like 'Aribo, you idiot!'..

[Badger]

1 hour ago, suewhistle said:

When it happened I wasn't entirely sure but wouldn't have been surprised with a red. I was certainly muttering something to myself like 'Aribo, you idiot!'..

Thought the same, although might have been wishful thinking that he might not be available for three games.

Reminded me a bit of the lunging tackle by Djenepo (?) v Newcastle shortly before lockdown. Looked 50:50 at the match but definitely ‘studs first’ when seeing it back. Perhaps Aribo is fortunate the ref didn’t get called to a screen to watch it again. But - didn’t seem to be too much outrage from Birm. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Badger