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1 hour ago, Barsiem said:

Thanks for the summary Gloucester Saint

Vince has been nominated for new T20 HoF.  He's good a good shout of getting in I'd say

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25987683.hampshire-legend-vince-shortlisted-t20-hall-fame-induction/

The public can vote on this though a panel of judges will have the final say.

Is Vince supposed to be playing in the PSL this year? I haven't seen him in any of the teams so far.

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I think this might be another year of transition in the Championship but confident we will end up in the top 5.

Adi Birell will be a big miss for his man management skills, but in Domingo I think we have a skilled coach, and I am backing him to be a big success.

Batting wise, we need to have a good opening pair who can stick around. Then we have excellent players to follow that through.

Middleton

Orr or Albert

Gubbins

Lehmann

Prest or Mayes or Weatherley

Brown

Dawson

Yusuf

Abbott

Wheal or Currie or Turner

Baker or Lumsden or Jack

That leaves Organ and Kelly on the sides for now

Edit, and Fuller who I assume is injured

Expecting us to be there or there abouts for white ball.

 

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Since my review above Hampshire have named 13 for Essex Game

Kyle Abbott (87)

Eddie Jack (91)

Toby Albert (15)

Jake Lehmann (33)

Sonny Baker (95)

Ben Mayes (21)

Ben Brown Captain † (10)

Tom Prest (24)

Scott Currie (44)

Joe Weatherley (5)

Liam Dawson (8)

Codi Yusuf (39)

Nick Gubbins (31)

 

So no Orr or Middleton so it will be interesting to see who opens. My take

Weatherly

Albert

Gubbins

Lemann

Prest

Brown

Dawson

Mayes

Yusuf

Abbott

Baker

 

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Interesting line up - are Orr, Albert and Middleton injured or dropped ?

assume Weatherly will move back up to open with Lehman ? 
 

Surprised Prest is in after his awful season
 

Need the batting to fire this year, poor batting should have seen us relegated last year were it not for Durham’s total collapse.

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3 hours ago, Hodgey said:

Interesting line up - are Orr, Albert and Middleton injured or dropped ?

assume Weatherly will move back up to open with Lehman ? 
 

Surprised Prest is in after his awful season
 

Need the batting to fire this year, poor batting should have seen us relegated last year were it not for Durham’s total collapse.

Didn't catch what he said about Orr, but KJ says Albert and Middleton didn't make the team although fit. Albert was fielding a couple of minutes ago. 

Not a bad start but the bowlers now look to be labouring, decent wicket perhaps.

KJ has also just said "Staying up will be seen as job done". Nothing like a bit of ambition then !!

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1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said:

 

KJ has also just said "Staying up will be seen as job done". Nothing like a bit of ambition then !!

Although from what I've seen this afternoon this perhaps looks about right. The bowling isn't very good so far. Jack and the new chap don't look like world beaters. 

Whatever happened to Turner ?

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We’ve got a lot of seam bowlers - Wheal / Turner / Currie / Baker / Jack new guy yet they all seem to be way off Abbot standard. 
Similar with the young batters I guess giving them another year makes sense - or maybe the club/players will go white ball only route. 

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4 hours ago, Window Cleaner said:

Although from what I've seen this afternoon this perhaps looks about right. The bowling isn't very good so far. Jack and the new chap don't look like world beaters. 

Whatever happened to Turner ?

Eddie Jack is a good prospect, Baker bowled well earlier in the day. Weatherley’s drop of Tom Westley might hurt us if he hasn’t broken a finger and returns tomorrow. 

Key learning for our batters is to keep it tight first 20-30 overs when it’s doing plenty and then the conditions get better and you can cash in like the Essex middle order has.

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1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Eddie Jack is a good prospect, Baker bowled well earlier in the day. Weatherley’s drop of Tom Westley might hurt us if he hasn’t broken a finger and returns tomorrow. 

Key learning for our batters is to keep it tight first 20-30 overs when it’s doing plenty and then the conditions get better and you can cash in like the Essex middle order has.

New rule this season that injured players can be replaced with a substitute that takes a full part in the game. Wesley has been replaced by Thain.

As you say great care will be needed as Porter and Cook open the Essex bowling.

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15 hours ago, Picard said:

New rule this season that injured players can be replaced with a substitute that takes a full part in the game. Wesley has been replaced by Thain.

As you say great care will be needed as Porter and Cook open the Essex bowling.

But apparently subs have to be like for like. I think they said that you can't replace a batter with a pace bowler.

Still out in the field, Essex nigh on 400 on the board and looking to be in an armchair.

As KJ said this morning, we're probably a senior bowler short. 

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Bad light, Essex declared at 461/7. Possible play will re-start but less likely.

Assuming it doesn’t, new ball didn’t do anything today unlike yesterday and Harmer, who is a decent lower order bat but not an all rounder, getting 71 no removes any excuses for the Hants top order.

Getting past the follow on figure is the first key task.

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21 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Bad light, Essex declared at 461/7. Possible play will re-start but less likely.

Assuming it doesn’t, new ball didn’t do anything today unlike yesterday and Harmer, who is a decent lower order bat but not an all rounder, getting 71 no removes any excuses for the Hants top order.

Getting past the follow on figure is the first key task.

We might have been better served if the game hadn't  restarted. Gubbins bowled 3rd ball, he really isn't an opener. Just don't understand leaving 3 openers out of the side. Apparently the new coach is a bit harder on them than the old one. Must have seen stuff that displeased him I suppose. 

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It’s very early days but I think success this year will be staying up - not convinced that squad has the ability to do it, particularly the batting which looks incredibly weak (and the bowling as we see today seems to require favourable conditions - we lack a genuine strike bowler and mystery spin)

maybe this new coach can get the talent out of these youngsters more consistently rather than the flashes seen so far 

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1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said:

We might have been better served if the game hadn't  restarted. Gubbins bowled 3rd ball, he really isn't an opener. Just don't understand leaving 3 openers out of the side. Apparently the new coach is a bit harder on them than the old one. Must have seen stuff that displeased him I suppose. 

Prest at #3 is mystifying as well. He can score a few when the mood takes him in white ball - although was poor even in One Day Cup last year - but very little defensive technique and better off trying to develop his bowling and have him coming in at 7 or 8 to smack a few runs with the tail. Horrible dismissal today. Or maybe use him for white ball only. 

Lehmann looks like he is motivated at least which is a rarity in this squad. Relying on him to go on tomorrow, Brown and Dawson. Because there isn’t much else really in terms of Division One calibre batting. 

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1 hour ago, Hodgey said:

It’s very early days but I think success this year will be staying up - not convinced that squad has the ability to do it, particularly the batting which looks incredibly weak (and the bowling as we see today seems to require favourable conditions - we lack a genuine strike bowler and mystery spin)

maybe this new coach can get the talent out of these youngsters more consistently rather than the flashes seen so far 

Realistically Kevin James is right, we’re a poor red ball side and staying up under our own steam would represent progress. There’s a bit of Saints 08/09 there. Key will be the Leicestershire and Sussex games plus anyone else drawn in at the bottom. Win/do not lose those and it doesn’t matter about the other games where we get a few hidings by an innings off Surrey/Essex/Notts/Warwicks and at least a couple will be rain draws. 

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Abbott and Jack at least getting Hants to lunch. Some awful dismissals this morning again. Porter, Cook and Snater are very handy bowlers at this level but peak Anderson, Broad and Harmison they are not. Really shouldn’t be 140 ao in blameless conditions. 

Backbone lacking again amongst the batsman. I know they’re facing higher end D1 bowlers and our squad is really D2 but at least make an effort. Look at Saints last night.

Domingo reckons he’s a disciplinarian, let’s see. 

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Well it’s only taken until the afternoon on day three for us to actually resemble something like a professional cricket team, with bat or ball.

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1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said:

Why is Weatherly still here? Totally incomprehensible. Never been any good really but still gets a game.

Needs to be loaned to D2 if anyone will have him (market for low/slow scoring opening with limited defence technique is vanishingly small), or more likely Minor Counties for Dorset or Wiltshire combined with a non-cricket job. 

Prest by contrast does have talent and needs to convert this fifty into a hundred now he’s got himself in. Gubbins can stick around. 

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2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Well it’s only taken until the afternoon on day three for us to actually resemble something like a professional cricket team, with bat or ball.

Spoke a bit too soon. Sussex also look set to beat Leics, wiping out their minus points. 

Long way to go but Leics and Hants look strong favourites to drop.

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10 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

We're not very good.

Well we suspected that might be the case. That's not the problem, why can't we do anything about it is.

A lot of players in the evening of their careers and very,very little coming through really. The Alberts and Middletons aren't all that young by sports standards.

Our bowling wasn't anywhere near good enough, there's no way our batting was going to get anywhere near saving the follow on. Prest and Gubbins made a bit of a stand in our second innings but the rest ....

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11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

We're not very good.

I’d be checking flights back to SA rapidly if I were Russell Domingo. 156 and 168 all out on a shirtfront to decent but journeyman bowlers (with the exception of Simon Harmer).

If it was football, you’d be looking for 9 new players to go with Abbott and Dawson (even he had a very poor game). 

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13 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I’d be checking flights back to SA rapidly if I were Russell Domingo. 156 and 168 all out on a shirtfront to decent but journeyman bowlers (with the exception of Simon Harmer).

If it was football, you’d be looking for 9 new players to go with Abbott and Dawson (even he had a very poor game). 

Journeymen? Cook is a good bowler, better than anything we had in this game. Quick,straight and gets mouvement. Critchley, well that's Roy of the Rovers stuff innit.

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7 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Journeymen? Cook is a good bowler, better than anything we had in this game. Quick,straight and gets mouvement. Critchley, well that's Roy of the Rovers stuff innit.

Very good county bowler but saw him struggle v Zimbabwe bowling at sub-80mph at times. 

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