docker-p Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 The only way I can describe Saints, since our back to back home wins and the win at Ipswich, is apathy. From the player and the fans. Not one do or die performance on the pitch, no rallying cries to storm up the table and Save our Saints, not one anti Lowe/Board demonstration to free our club. Even traffic on this site seems to have dwindled. I include myself in the apathy. I think I've eventually reached a point where I associate the Saints, the badge, the red and white stripes, with Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde, Guy Askham etc, not with the history of Southampton or it's people at all. And that makes it hard to give a flying ****. We may go down, we may stay up but will anyone care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGF Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 I feel the same way & what concerns me is that any youngsters following footy will not want to support the Saints due to the sham they call football being produced at St Marys at present. There is no commitment from the players & we dont have a leader on the pitch you just dont know what team will turn up these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Know exactly what you mean. The passion has dwindled and this forum is a shadow of its former self. It really is difficult to muster the enthusiasm for the Saints - even though I do miss the games. But let's face it, we've had to put up with being under-whelmed by Rupert and his cronies for so long now, its become the norm. And when that happens what is there left to look forward to - little. I can see where some people advocating Admin are coming from - at least there would be a little excitement and intrigue to be excited about. Oh well, only three more home games before we're put out our collective misery. Who knows, we might be relegated within a couple of weeks. Big question then is - will Lowe stay on regardless? I can just imagine him now - "I cannot leave the club in trouble after Michaels terrible decision to put the two Dutchmen in plan". (-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Many Saints fans, myself in all honesty included, are a fickle bunch. While I have all but given up hope this season, a victory over Charlton (and possible escape from the Zone) would really start to make things interesting. Self-belief has been lacking as, until the run of three victorys, we had been quite poor all season. For me, the Forest game at home before Christmas was the landmark of our season, with them struggling and, even then, it was a potential six-pointer. I also saw the 3-0 defeat at Crystal Palace in December with a Palace-supporting mate, and very few times before have I been that embarrassed. Our defending was poor, and I'm quite glad the Reading lad was recalled as he was dire. The little patch of form we have had with the 3 victories and draws since has, in fact, made the season more difficult for me to cope with. Now we have a chance. Had we not hit the form, we'd have been fighting to beat Charlton to 30 points. Now there is hope. There is apathy, but a couple of victories in the next few games could really get the numbers back on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 You just have to look at how this forums activity has nosedived to see people are bored with Saints now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 As much as i try and get passionate about every game it is becoming harder and harder to really care.I am another who has really had a gut full of all the antics at St Marys. Rupert i hate everything about you and i hold you fully responsible for our demise. WGS left to have a hip replacement.**** off it was just another of your cover ups.We would struggle to land a decent manager because of you. I wish you would slide away and die under the rock from where you came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Its not just Saints fans or us that post on here that are fed up with Lowe/Wilde and SFC in general.Even the people i work with who support other teams,dont bother talking about how bad Saints are. All around the city there is a negative attitude towards our football team and its all down to one Rupert Lowe and his stupid Total Football rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 It's all very well blaming Lowe, but he should never have been allowed to return. Michael Wilde is the real enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 It's all very well blaming Lowe, but he should never have been allowed to return. Michael Wilde is the real enemy. Agree with what you say Stanley. Also it would be interesting to discover the real reason Wilde changed his mind and sided with Lowe. But it seems that Lowe is now the one calling the shots,so in my book hes is just as much to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 the saints we grew up with in the 70's/80's (for me anyway) no longer exists,the players the history,the cup runs,the cup finals,the dell and the good times are no longer with us. the times of not knowing or caring who the chairmen or directors were,worrying about transfer windows or takeovers have long gone. the premiership seems a lifetime ago and a world away,we have gone from a nice friendly family club to a twisted,disfunctional **** up of a club in just a few years,people are sick of the circus that is SFC,the fighting,the money worries,the sh1t football the false hopes and promises have all taken its toll on the fans and the community,the wounds of failure are still wide open and bleeding,nobody at the club has the ability to heal the wounds and the scars will be long lasting. the fans have had a gut full,the passion is just not there anymore,the only thing that remains constant is the red and white shirt,everything else is just a pale shadow of what made this club great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 It's all very well blaming Lowe, but he should never have been allowed to return. Michael Wilde is the real enemy. but if it wasn't for Wilde we wouldn't have had a break from Lowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 but if it wasn't for Wilde we wouldn't have had a break from Lowe! Or the "Go Wilde" tee shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Or the "Go Wilde" tee shirts. Or the multiple S4E/TSF/TSW logins that even give me a run for my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 (edited) Or the multiple S4E/TSF/TSW logins that even give me a run for my money. Yes that was sneaky,but not as bad as hiring a PR company to post on those sites saying how good and wonderful our Chairman is. Now who was it that hired the PR company again? Edited 29 March, 2009 by rocknrollman no2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Or the multiple S4E/TSF/TSW logins that even give me a run for my money. I presume that's a reference to that Wiltshire Saint/Tiggs/Thy Pie/TheDellDays/Atticus Finch/Deppo bloke who posts on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Oh the doom and gloom brigade are in a bad way For the record Stanley "You just have to look at how this forums activity has nosedived to see people are bored with Saints now. Its for comedians such as yourself that I rarely post on here these days nothing to do with the team I have just had my fill of all the doom and gloom merchants. If we go down we go down, I will still support Saints. I just hope ****s like you F*** Off So I can enjoy watching saints without you spouting your ****e all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 You just have to look at how this forums activity has nosedived to see people are bored with Saints now. Or the forum:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 F*** this site. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Oh the doom and gloom brigade are in a bad way For the record Stanley "You just have to look at how this forums activity has nosedived to see people are bored with Saints now. Its for comedians such as yourself that I rarely post on here these days nothing to do with the team I have just had my fill of all the doom and gloom merchants. If we go down we go down, I will still support Saints. I just hope ****s like you F*** Off So I can enjoy watching saints without you spouting your ****e all the time Hi OrkneySaint, thanks for your kind words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 the saints we grew up with in the 70's/80's (for me anyway) no longer exists,the players the history,the cup runs,the cup finals,the dell and the good times are no longer with us. the times of not knowing or caring who the chairmen or directors were,worrying about transfer windows or takeovers have long gone. the premiership seems a lifetime ago and a world away,we have gone from a nice friendly family club to a twisted,disfunctional **** up of a club in just a few years,people are sick of the circus that is SFC,the fighting,the money worries,the sh1t football the false hopes and promises have all taken its toll on the fans and the community,the wounds of failure are still wide open and bleeding,nobody at the club has the ability to heal the wounds and the scars will be long lasting. the fans have had a gut full,the passion is just not there anymore,the only thing that remains constant is the red and white shirt,everything else is just a pale shadow of what made this club great. good post - although these may be our wilderness years we can come through them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 For me, who is the chairman has **** all to do with my supporting of Saints. And, except in the most paranoid of minds, has very little to do with how the players play. If Saints go down, they'll go down with me knowing I have been supportive; constructive, positive and supporting to the best of my ability. Can everyone on this board say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 And, except in the most paranoid of minds, has very little to do with how the players play. Two words that display how the Chairman/CEO has a direct impact on how players play (and perhaps more importantly in what formation they play, who plays, coaching, training etc etc etc). Jan Poortvliet. Wouldn't call that being paranoid, and to assume who the Chairman/CEO is has very little with how players play is somewhat naive IMHO. With decisions such as the appointment of Poortvliet, the Chairman/CEO set the tone for the entire Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivangolac Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 The only way I can describe Saints, since our back to back home wins and the win at Ipswich, is apathy. From the player and the fans. Not one do or die performance on the pitch, no rallying cries to storm up the table and Save our Saints, not one anti Lowe/Board demonstration to free our club. Even traffic on this site seems to have dwindled. I include myself in the apathy. I think I've eventually reached a point where I associate the Saints, the badge, the red and white stripes, with Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde, Guy Askham etc, not with the history of Southampton or it's people at all. And that makes it hard to give a flying ****. We may go down, we may stay up but will anyone care? Snap out of it Mush :smt075 I sense victory on Saturday and with most of our rivals playing each other we'll be right amongst it \\:D/ Of course this will then be followed by the inevitable defeat at Watford , but we'll scratch together enough points to make the last day at Forest a decider :drinkers: That could be a great day , or maybe a **** one but either way we'll be back doing it all again next season It's never dull watching Saints and what else would we do anyway :smt102: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 We don't expect anything else when we are led by two lazy uncharismatic, uninspired numpties who totally lack leadership skills, do we? Time for another march to shake the whole outfit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 We don't expect anything else when we are led by two lazy uncharismatic, uninspired numpties who totally lack leadership skills, do we? Time for another march to shake the whole outfit up. I'm afraid protests are pointless as Lowe doesn't care and Wilde lives in tellytubby land. Boycotting is the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeg Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 For me, who is the chairman has **** all to do with my supporting of Saints. sorry Alain - I disagree - the chairman has a massive influence on all of us supporting Saints - the general mood around the club - his persona and most important of all - his decision making which has a direct impact on the managers "picked" (the less said about that the better) and the choice of players selected (the less said about that the better) unfortunately we have lowe and wilde in charge consequently we're fu***ed!! if not this season (by some miracle) then next and no as a Saints fan of 35 years I take no pleasure in saying that - in fact it hurts like hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 good post - although these may be our wilderness years we can come through them! Wilde-ness years, surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I'm afraid protests are pointless as Lowe doesn't care and Wilde lives in tellytubby land. Boycotting is the only way. Utter rubbish. Our three wins were when the protests were active and adrenaline in the ground was electric. The players were up for it. Perhaps if only because they knew they daren't go out clubbing the night before the match, as per usual?, I don't know, but they were fired up. And that's where it matters. On the pitch -on the day. Since the marches, the players have reverted to their lackadaisical norm. Boycotts are apathetic, and apathy is reflected on the pitch. So be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Oh the doom and gloom brigade are in a bad way For the record Stanley "You just have to look at how this forums activity has nosedived to see people are bored with Saints now. Its for comedians such as yourself that I rarely post on here these days nothing to do with the team I have just had my fill of all the doom and gloom merchants. If we go down we go down, I will still support Saints. I just hope ****s like you F*** Off So I can enjoy watching saints without you spouting your ****e all the time Guaranteed my friend, who wants to watch Third Divison football when they've seen it all before.. expensive late night trips to Chesterfield? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 keep the faith guys and girls, keep the faith. as someone in my mid thirties with a lifetime of relegation battles behind me, this is not done and dusted! There may be very little dust left but even if we end up in league 1 it might just be the catalyst for change. maybe we will manage one promotion challenge before the relegation battles begin again. who knows what really lies ahead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I'm afraid protests are pointless as Lowe doesn't care and Wilde lives in tellytubby land. Boycotting is the only way. I promise if you boycott this site for five years I will feel suitably chastised and never post again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 30 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Utter rubbish. Our three wins were when the protests were active and adrenaline in the ground was electric. The players were up for it. Perhaps if only because they knew they daren't go out clubbing the night before the match, as per usual?, I don't know, but they were fired up. And that's where it matters. On the pitch -on the day. Since the marches, the players have reverted to their lackadaisical norm. Boycotts are apathetic, and apathy is reflected on the pitch. So be there. I certainly don't think its a coincidence the recent home wins came on the days that we were protesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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