Saints67 Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11627 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Was disappointed when I opened the article. Hoped the ending to the sentence would be "Lucy Pinder". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11627 Quote from McMenemy - 'I was amazed when I found out the perilous situation the club was in'. AaaaRGH! Do me a favour McMenemy do you honestly expect us to believe you had no idea what was going on! No good trying to recoat yourself in teflon now and try some more point scoring, its too late, your reputation was tarnished along time ago. This whole evening deserves to be given a very wide berth by anyone interested in uniting the fan base. Failing that Osman the Comedian is an oxymoron, be warned. What about more recent employees like Benali or current players/coaches why are they not on the panel? Last thing we want is balance and this has the hallmarks of an anti-Lowe fest which will serve what purpose exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Quote from McMenemy - 'I was amazed when I found out the perilous situation the club was in'. AaaaRGH! Do me a favour McMenemy do you honestly expect us to believe you had no idea what was going on! No good trying to recoat yourself in teflon now and try some more point scoring, its too late, your reputation was tarnished along time ago. This whole evening deserves to be given a very wide berth by anyone interested in uniting the fan base. Failing that Osman the Comedian is an oxymoron, be warned. What about more recent employees like Benali or current players/coaches why are they not on the panel? Last thing we want is balance and this has the hallmarks of an anti-Lowe fest which will serve what purpose exactly? Either you are a skate on a wind up; and if so keep it up. Or your some little worm like Guy Askham. Which is it NC? Come on you can tell me, it's late and the ain't anyone around. SHhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Quote from McMenemy - 'I was amazed when I found out the perilous situation the club was in'. AaaaRGH! Do me a favour McMenemy do you honestly expect us to believe you had no idea what was going on! No good trying to recoat yourself in teflon now and try some more point scoring, its too late, your reputation was tarnished along time ago. This whole evening deserves to be given a very wide berth by anyone interested in uniting the fan base. Failing that Osman the Comedian is an oxymoron, be warned. What about more recent employees like Benali or current players/coaches why are they not on the panel? Last thing we want is balance and this has the hallmarks of an anti-Lowe fest which will serve what purpose exactly? Did you own any shares in SLH Nineteen? Have you lost them all now? But Rupes is still King eh? Do you have pictures of him next to your bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Why keep up the "everyone is being horrible to Rupert so im going to be nasty to Lawrie and Leon" stance Its even more boring than the 'i hate Lowe' brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 picture on the site is the worst photoshop job ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Either you are a skate on a wind up; and if so keep it up. Or your some little worm like Guy Askham. Which is it NC? Come on you can tell me, it's late and the ain't anyone around. SHhhh. Do you believe McMenemy was completely unaware of the perilous situation? iF you do then you I'm afraid are as big a mug as me for believing supporting Lowe was the only way to get through this mess and back on an even keel at least without significant risk to the future of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Why keep up the "everyone is being horrible to Rupert so im going to be nasty to Lawrie and Leon" stance Its even more boring than the 'i hate Lowe' brigade I don't know ask McMenemy, or read his quotes and convince yourself that you have good reason to believe him. I actually want balance and unity and when those who should know better start down that path then we can all move forwards in the meantime i am happy to point out what you selectively choose to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Do you believe McMenemy was completely unaware of the perilous situation? iF you do then you I'm afraid are as big a mug as me for believing supporting Lowe was the only way to get through this mess and back on an even keel at least without significant risk to the future of the club. Like it matters what LM was aware of. He couldn't affect the situation one way or another with what 0.1% share holding? And as he had no access to the day to day running of the club, yes i do believe he didn't know how just how perilous our situation was under Lowes miss-management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 At least I will sleep well tonight, not only for the '04 Lafite I've just enjoyed, but knowing LM's picture will soon be hanging again in the board room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 At least I will sleep well tonight, not only for the '04 Lafite I've just enjoyed, but knowing LM's picture will soon be hanging again in the board room. Is LM sort for LocoMotive or London To Manchester ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Like it matters what LM was aware of. He couldn't affect the situation one way or another with what 0.1% share holding? And as he had no access to the day to day running of the club, yes i do believe he didn't know how just how perilous our situation was under Lowes miss-management Well I'm afraid you are naive at best and it matters because people like you and the lazy local media will rely on McMenemy to feed you a line on the situation when in that one quote he has proven himself to be full of sh1t. Do you believe Crouch knew, if so it's inconceivable IMO that he would not have told McMenemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Is LM sort for LocoMotive or London To Manchester ? Don't start Pilsbury. Get back to your Cider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Is LM sort for LocoMotive or London To Manchester ? Lowe Memorabilia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Well I'm afraid you are naive at best and it matters because people like you and the lazy local media will rely on McMenemy to feed you a line on the situation when in that one quote he has proven himself to be full of sh1t. Do you believe Crouch knew, if so it's inconceivable IMO that he would not have told McMenemy. But you miss the point NC, or are too warped in anger to see it. What does it matter what LM knew of the fiscal situation if he had no possible way to alter it??? Lowe Wilde Askham etc etc held the reigns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Why anybody bothers to respond or take any interest in what this canteen idiot writes is beyond me,he is just one of the wounded lowe supporters lashing out in frustration at the fact their master is poweless once more. Ignore the mug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Lowe Memorabilia I trod in some ****e earlier thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 But you miss the point NC, or are too warped in anger to see it. What does it matter what LM knew of the fiscal situation if he had no possible way to alter it??? Lowe Wilde Askham etc etc held the reigns! The point is McMenemy knew how bad the situation was IMO but I agree could do nothing about it. However, to tell us in a quote on the OS that he had no idea, given his apparently close ties with Crouch and no doubt other closely connected individuals, is frankly astounding and if you are happy being treated as a dumb fool good luck to you but IMO McMenemy needs to wise up and treat the fans with a little more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 The point is McMenemy knew how bad the situation was IMO but I agree could do nothing about it. However, to tell us in a quote on the OS that he had no idea, given his apparently close ties with Crouch and no doubt other closely connected individuals, is frankly astounding and if you are happy being treated as a dumb fool good luck to you but IMO McMenemy needs to wise up and treat the fans with a little more respect. LM can treat me as a dumb fool as much as he likes, he won the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Why anybody bothers to respond or take any interest in what this canteen idiot writes is beyond me,he is just one of the wounded lowe supporters lashing out in frustration at the fact their master is poweless once more. Ignore the mug... You appear to be the mug for swallowing McMenemy's (IMO) less than believable comment. Easy to write me off and get all clever with the name calling but I see you avoid the debate with regard to our diety with the slipping halo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Whether or not McMenemy knew how bad things were at Saints,doesnt really matter.He hasnt had any say with what goes on at SFC for a very long time. The fact is that Lowe made all the decisions and he must have known how bad things were,but in his wisdom decided to say nothing. I bet Lowe thought he knew better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 You appear to be the mug for swallowing McMenemy's (IMO) less than believable comment. Easy to write me off and get all clever with the name calling but I see you avoid the debate with regard to our diety with the slipping halo. Yes it is, and yes we all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 LM can treat me as a dumb fool as much as he likes, he won the FA Cup. And that gives him a licence to treat us as dumb fools who will accept his every word without question? Actually don't answer that I fear I already know the answer but look outside DP times change although you probably still have an Allegro on the drive and happy to accept your square steering wheel even after 33 years of subsequent innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 9 April, 2009 Share Posted 9 April, 2009 Yes it is, and yes we all do. And yet I'm still here, no matter how rude and sick the patient the doctor has a duty to try and improve their condition. It remains a very salient point that IMO it is highly unlikely McMenemy was unaware how perilous the situation was and to come out and publicly say that in some misguided belief we will believe it is astounding. IMO I would not trust a single word the man says and he works the media to his advantage which is unfortunate given where we are today. Hopefully, the new owners will discard him as his rights as an ambassador for this club expired a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 If your only problem is that Lawie said he didnt know but must have, try to remember the way Lowe treated the fans on many occasions and tell me that was the better way, your obsession is just plain wierd, you need therapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 lowe is to blame fullstop, Lawrie was good for us, however we were better for him and Ryan Smith is now world class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 LM can treat me as a dumb fool as much as he likes, he won the FA Cup. I think 19C was a Man U supporter in those days. That is why he is so anti LM nowadays!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Quote from McMenemy - 'I was amazed when I found out the perilous situation the club was in'. AaaaRGH! Do me a favour McMenemy do you honestly expect us to believe you had no idea what was going on! No good trying to recoat yourself in teflon now and try some more point scoring, its too late, your reputation was tarnished along time ago. This whole evening deserves to be given a very wide berth by anyone interested in uniting the fan base. Failing that Osman the Comedian is an oxymoron, be warned. What about more recent employees like Benali or current players/coaches why are they not on the panel? Last thing we want is balance and this has the hallmarks of an anti-Lowe fest which will serve what purpose exactly? Reputation tarnished along time ago ? What did he do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Im a tad in agreement with NC's comments LM was a brilliant manager for us and transformed us in to an excellent footballing side under the mentorshop of Ted Bates. I am very grateful for that period for what he did on the playing side. How ever he has far from covered himself in glory since he became part of the management side in recent years. Even in his latter days as manager he waltzed round the backrooms as if he owned the club or was the RSM. a number of backroom staff were quite afraid of him and had to call him Mr McMeneny etc not laurie. He was a stickler for discipline not only with the players but all those involved with the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Do you believe McMenemy was completely unaware of the perilous situation? iF you do then you I'm afraid are as big a mug as me for believing supporting Lowe was the only way to get through this mess and back on an even keel at least without significant risk to the future of the club. caused by your man Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 The point is McMenemy knew how bad the situation was IMO but I agree could do nothing about it. However, to tell us in a quote on the OS that he had no idea, given his apparently close ties with Crouch and no doubt other closely connected individuals, is frankly astounding and if you are happy being treated as a dumb fool good luck to you but IMO McMenemy needs to wise up and treat the fans with a little more respect. I think he knew it was bad, but not as bad as it turned out to be. Lowe was never exactly one for allowing info like that to leave the boardroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 caused by your man Lowe. I thought LM was on the board that spent money unwisely but obviously he did not see that would lead to ruin. Other people other than Lowe are to Blame for our demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Other people other than Lowe are to Blame for our demise. OMG so Lowe has done nothing wrong at all? I dont believe im reading this **** of course he had something to do with it, not all to blame butcome on he must take his share of the blame, his decision making has been a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 He was a stickler for discipline not only with the players but all those involved with the club What a bit like Fergie, Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Matt Busby etc you mean ? Now lets think, they were the most successful managers of recent times and LM tried to run Saints like that during, wait....our most successful times !! Umm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Other people other than Lowe are to Blame for our demise. Oh dear oh dear oh dear, how sad, what colour is the sky in your world John B ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeg Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Quote from McMenemy - 'I was amazed when I found out the perilous situation the club was in'. AaaaRGH! Do me a favour McMenemy do you honestly expect us to believe you had no idea what was going on! No good trying to recoat yourself in teflon now and try some more point scoring, its too late, your reputation was tarnished along time ago. This whole evening deserves to be given a very wide berth by anyone interested in uniting the fan base. Failing that Osman the Comedian is an oxymoron, be warned. What about more recent employees like Benali or current players/coaches why are they not on the panel? Last thing we want is balance and this has the hallmarks of an anti-Lowe fest which will serve what purpose exactly? what a complete load of drivel - Doctor ..... QUICK!!!! btw see you there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11627 Love it! How much that must be needling Lowe now lol Welcome back Lawrie, Mick and Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 And yet I'm still here, no matter how rude and sick the patient the doctor has a duty to try and improve their condition. It remains a very salient point that IMO it is highly unlikely McMenemy was unaware how perilous the situation was and to come out and publicly say that in some misguided belief we will believe it is astounding. IMO I would not trust a single word the man says and he works the media to his advantage which is unfortunate given where we are today. Hopefully, the new owners will discard him as his rights as an ambassador for this club expired a long time ago. More utter crap from you. Honestly why are you so bitter? Lowe was a cancer, he's been removed, Lawrie Mac is a legend. I think you should support someone else, perhaps Lowe may go on to take over a club like Swindon in the future and you can follow him there 19. You've been made to look foolish mate, why keep digging a hole for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Reputation tarnished along time ago ? What did he do Won an FA Cup and promoted us to the top flight. Signed Shearer and MLT I think. Tarnished - honestly Lawrie Mac ... tut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 Won an FA Cup and promoted us to the top flight. Signed Shearer and MLT I think. Tarnished - honestly Lawrie Mac ... tut! Not to mention a league cup final, european football, Kevin Keegan two fa cup semi finals etc etc :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 I think 19C was a Man U supporter in those days. That is why he is so anti LM nowadays!! Close Tame, I was actually a Leeds fan but as an easily influenced 8 year old at the time of the cup win i got caught up in my families euphoria (My uncle was the main culprit) and on a tide of excitment vowed to support Saints despite everyone in my class being a Leeds or Man U fan. Trouble is as time passes McMenemy has even less of an impact for the fans of our future, except for any budding historians who are forced to have their picture taken by the Ted Bates statue. As his popularity wains then more important for him to make his words more impactful than his silence would have been. Lies (IMO) and cheap rhetoric is not exactly helping unite us all to the cause and this evening function of avid anti-Lowes and part heroes serves no purpose other than fragmenting the past from those responsible for supporting our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 10 April, 2009 Share Posted 10 April, 2009 More utter crap from you. Honestly why are you so bitter? Lowe was a cancer, he's been removed, Lawrie Mac is a legend. I think you should support someone else, perhaps Lowe may go on to take over a club like Swindon in the future and you can follow him there 19. You've been made to look foolish mate, why keep digging a hole for yourself? No Lawrie McMenemy was the cancer and IMO worked insidiuosly in the background to undermine perhaps unwittingly the foundation of this club. The disunity in the boardroom over the past 15 years has only served to promote that in the fanbase and a true ambassador would have done their best to ensure the cracks were repaired not forced open ever wider at every opportunity. Legend is a word that is over used and in the wrong context but maybe in this case McMenemy is a legend because much fact has been lost in sheer fable. To compare him with the likes of Fergie, Stein, Clough, Busby, Shankly is frankly like comparing Docker - P's nouveau riche taste in wine with my Tesco delivered Chiliean Cabernet. Docker p if you are opening a 2004 Lafite then you are at least 10 years ahead of it's expected maturity and even their most stunning vintages the 1982 and 1986 will still reward your patience. If you decide to open yours between 2010 and 2030 I would welcome the opportunity to sample perhaps one of the greatest wines ever made if not, they have with time the potential to be even greater than their great vintages from the 1950's. A man of your wasteful taste no doubt has some 82 and 86's in your cellar. I'm sure you are aware the wine is not bottled until up to 30 months in the barrell and even though the Chateau has accelerated the bottling process to eradicate any uneveness as a result of bottling over a period of 12 months it is still no excuse to be opening a 2004 unless you like to make a show of how you appear to be rich and ill-informed at the same time then you'd be better off going back to screw tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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