Fabrice29

Is it because for two years now everyone, including Adam and Joe, has been moaning about our defensive woes? Those two are proper plonkers

There are people who deliberately refuse to understand XG so this very basic and small explanation will not appease those but a helpful thing to remember with XG is a penalty is generally considered about 0.75/0.8. So given that’s a one on one, stationary shot, no defenders, keeper on his line etc, then one on ones like we had yesterday would be less than that. Also notice footmob have us at 1.67 XG so different sources have us at different figures.

Yeah I think they expect him back before January though.

I’ll be surprised/disappointed if we’re not making a push for Pierce Charles given he’s been at games recently and we’ll want his brother to stay.

No. I asked for evidence. The idea of someone deliberately playing badly so he's not picked again does seem slightly far fetched though.

That is just pure hyperbole

Sorry but where is the evidence for any of this narrative? Is it really all based on one comment from Juric about Downes, which he rowed back on a couple of weeks or so later on and stuck him back in the team?

Nathan Jones first talked about the squad needing better characters and personality. Probably wasn't far away from saying cunt himself before he was sacked. Every manager since has pretty much talked about the squad lacking leadership when justifying bringing back Stephens. Personally, I'd get Downes back in the side at least until January.

Suspect it’s a dressing room that is used to losing and naturally fractured because of that. And that’s before you even remember that since Ralph gutted the squad of anyone being able to think for themselves that almost every manager since has bemoaned the lack of leadership and personality within the dressing room and ends up having to bring Jack Stephen’s back into the side.

Saying you sympathise with him and also worry who we’d appoint after sacking him is exactly why you wouldn’t sack him surely? No point making a decision like that for the sake of it.

Yes. Appreciate it's not the most popular shout and I understand why because he's looked naff but Archer just had two starts in a row and not overly delivered so why not give Downs that opportunity now? I'm much more keen on seeing Robinson and Azaz start again though. Really think the casual comments of "squad that is comfortably top 2 on paper" only set us up for failure tbh. There's no evidence of that. We finished bottom by miles last season and 4th the season prior. Ipswich and Leicester have every right to say their squads are better than ours firstly and thats even before we get onto the reality that nothing is played on paper except for narrative building. That said, I totally agree our squad is better than it's performing now and the manager/club should be doing better with it.

I'm Lucy Pinder still, I think? I just think that we can all throw around various accusations as to who is at fault, and everyone does, but the reality is we've been through 4 managers this year and we've probably got worse each time? I'm not sure we need to do that again and think that maybe, some patience and acceptance that like the last time we were in this league that maybe allowing the players the opportunity to grow in the really long season might be the best option? We've obviously not started as well as last time, and I did try and remind people on here the manager we had last time did quite a good job, but the season is really long. I'm not saying the manager is faultless, far from it but people wanted a pragmatic manager, well this is what pragmatism looks like, when it's bad, it's really bad, but rather than just throwing everything up in the air again, I'm much more on the side of actually giving someone some time to get it right instead of changing again? The only time this club has had success under this ownership is when the manager wasn't hounded out immediately. And boy are you doing a really good and witty job of that

You going to put some respect on his name yet or were you one of those convincing yourself you hated the season we actually won games and scored goals?

I suggest we let someone have a proper crack at the job they've been employed to do rather than convince ourselves there's some magical button that turns everything around out there even though we've pressed it 4 times this year and have seemingly got worse each time?

Demand more from the players and have a bit of patience. 4 managers we've had this year, 5 in the last 12 months. The last thing anyone needs more new ideas. In the short term, start Robinson, Azaz, Armstrong and Downs as a narrow front four.

Has anyone considered that the manager might not be the only thing that dictates result? Or do we need to go through our 5th one this year to consider it?

Nathan Jones fancy it?

Give another manager those 8 games instead. Thats worked out well all year.

You're welcome you hysterical little thing, you.

Hahahaha

Ryan Fraser has two assists to his name this season. More than anyone else in the squad. We've also got a massive squad. I'm not sure not being in the squad is necessarily a reflection on how bad someone has been in training, it could just be someone has to be left out and Frasers productivity has pushed him ahead.

What makes you think they haven't taken it seriously out of interest?

Out of interest @Matthew Le God were/are you the data guy for the womens team as well?

He’s not hipster though is he? Nothing he’s done in his previous teams have suggested he’s in anyway a hipster? His teams have always been pretty driven, disciplined and pragmatic. None of his teams were blowing anyone away or doing anything tactically out of the ordinary to be considered hipster. He’s even named those old experienced heads your thinking of as teams he’s enjoyed watching when growing up. So what you actually mean is you dislike that he’s young and not managed in the league before. Which is fine but don’t try and paint him as someone who is doing something he’s not and never has done. He’s doing what he’s always done which is make us hard to beat and asking his attacking players to deliver moments to win games. And they aren’t doing that. But if you think any ‘old experienced head’ would be planning anything different other then you’re deluded.

Lost 3-0 and had 1 shot. Think their chances of scoring might have been much worse than they were yesterday tbh.