Fabrice29

Odd the new echo reporter tweeted an article he’d done on the Dobbin interest but has seemingly deleted that now.

Good start by getting rid of Skip to be fair

Stop comparing a subjective view of players ability to try and work out transfer fees.

I think you have wildly mis judged the context of his situation when we sold him. Saints had to judge if a lad who was still growing, a little behind his development because of his injuries and had underwhelmed in the lower league loans he had, was able to justify the playing time he needed to progress ahead of a player who had scored goals in the PL and a lad who had scored some goals in the German 2nd division and had broken into the USA set up (albeit due to rotation and injuries). All well and good you judging them on hindsight and all well and good you just not realising that his top scorer season in the lower league doesn't happen without the move and doesn't immediately translate into being able to push us to promotion either but it's not the reality Saints or Ballard faced last summer.

‘Doing a job’ for someone isn’t a move Ballard should be making given he’s just had his first season as a regular starter. If you assume he’ll be an Archer replacement then those minutes Archer got last season shouldn’t be appealing to him. Think people need to get over him, tidy player but was clearly the right move for everyone when it happened and don’t really see the appeal for either side to jump back in immediately at the first sign of success. Let him flourish elsewhere, it’s okay.

James Justin the Leeds fullback?

Sorry, why? 😂

For someone so committed he is doing a very good of quite literally not committing.

This is utter nonsense btw. He was quite literally a vital part of a team that just finished in the top 6 of the Championship. Barely proven ffs 😂 Football isn’t dictated by starting 11’s anymore either.

Don't think THB is going to a give a hoot who is at Saints next season tbh.

It isn’t just money and the material things. There’s plenty of footballing reasons to go to bigger clubs too.

Will be decent next season with a pre season behind him, am I right or a wally?

Gunn, Sugawara, Caleta-Car, VVD, Tino, Mane, Valery, Adams, Sulemana, Larin, Stewart. - Jones and Danso on the bench.

Don’t really see the need for the ‘ungrateful’ narrative personally. Lads got a short career, made even shorter by his terrible luck and him and his advisors probably have had a whiff of something better for them that we’ve offered. He doesn’t owe us anything, he got given a contract here and it hasn’t worked out due to injuries but it’s not like it was an incredibly selfless act for us to continue to rehab him and chuck him in last season when fit. Just as we don’t owe him to offer him the best deal he’ll get just because he scored some goals for us last season. Good luck to him.

Years and years of super injunctions have finally run out

Okay the two this morning are better. The one yesterday was absolute slop though and just added to the cringeworthy response. Playing to a particular crowd of online conspiracy theorists, which is no surprise given some of the people involved at the top end of the club. That simply needs to be rooted out if you actually want to be accountable and humble. Happy enough to have a siege mentality regarding the team and manager but it only takes a few bad results or the FA accepting the dare to ban Tonda and shit hits the fan again.

On reflection I think less statements from the club might be better.

This isn’t the point you were making a few days ago in fairness.

So guilty then? Thanks for coming to the jury service.

Most interesting update for a while barely getting a response in 18 hours whilst in other threads people are pretending they know how to put a better legal defence forward than actual qualified lawyers.

Incredible to think the players are sat around waiting to find out the details but the sleuths on here have dissected every single detail of the case from PP words to Gibson to the allotted time the club could have had legally if they hired the correct lawyers to form a defence for a charge everyone knows they are guilty of. This really is an incredible place.

Just your daily reminder that they accepted all charges levied against them. So yeh, I’ve decided they are guilty. You are right.

Totally the same, you’re so right.

PP and TE had an opportunity to explain what actually happened when the charges were bought and concluded that admitting guilt was their only course of action. They also had an opportunity to stop events being blown out of all proportion but decided against any attempt to control the narrative. They’ve also sent proven batshit conspiracy theorists to bat for the club afterwards. It’s been piss poor and guilty decision making at every opportunity so let’s not pretend it’s a media hatchet job. People should be thrown under the bus for what has ultimately led to being kicked out of an opportunity to get to the PL. Who that is might be up for debate pending the outcome of an internal review and FA action but let’s not try and spin the idea the fans are wrongly jumping the gun ffs. 😂

Out of interest, why? Our end of theirs? I'm not convinced either can do better than top end Championship given their limits so I suspect it'll come down to whether we think we can do better? Edit: Just seen everyone else has already asked and been answered