Nordic Saint

Ings hat-trick?

+ Ings. Our best striker. = assist + goal. There is hope when those two play together.

Surely, not every player we buy can be spineless and useless? No recruitment department in the world could be THAT bad, could it? I'm sure most of our players would play much better if they could escape to another club. Look at Tadic, Forster and Elyounoussi.

You'd be no use to Ralph then. You have to be totally one-footed so that Ralph knows which wrong side of the pitch to play you on.

Let's face it, Everton have had a terrible season. No wonder their fans are cynical.

Another problem is that Djenepo is having to cover for him all the time, making him less effective as an attacking force. Whenever JWP plays you need another player who is fast enough to actually reach the ball to cover for him. The same applies to Vestergaard in defence.

At least it's allowed Fonte to end his career with some dignity, winning another major trophy with Portugal and leading his Lille team into the Champions League.

We're playing the same tactics as we did at Man City. Pull everyone back and hope for a narrow defeat. We're not stupid: we learned from the 9-0 home defeat.

Dave Watson's coaching for set pieces is as good as his coaching of our goalkeepers was. You have to admit both Dave and Kelvin are loyal. They haven't left us for Liverpool, Tottenham or even Bayern Munich. #Dave&KelvinHereFor Life

To be fair, we know our players don't like playing in bad weather. The sky's brightening up a bit now so maybe they'll be able to cope better.

To be fair to him, I think Dave Watson is just as bad, if not worse. I've seen them both in action with the players in pre-match warmups and they look like they are barely going through the motions. There's no spark or motivation there and it looks like our players just wish they'd go away. The contrast with the top teams' coaches in the other half is stark. I remember watching Kelvin teaching Charlie Austin how to shoot and it was cringe worthy. They both seemed embarrassed by the situation. No wonder, Charlie never scored again.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Do our first team players look well coached?

All this talk of him buying real estate around the stadium is bizarre as he's probably struggling to even make his loan repayments. Where do people think he's going to magic this money up from?

That table shows that you generally get what you pay for so the clubs currently filling the bottom 2 places in the Premier League come as no surprise.

Why can we never get rid of them properly? A "12-month secondment" means he'll be coming back again. When does his contract end?

Maybe the thread should be renamed that.

Man of the Match: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/celtic-player-ratings-fraser-forster-20835904

And Fraser Forster is back to his best. #Escaped from Dave Watson

What a turkey this one turned out to be! https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/southampton-fans-laugh-at-mario-lemina-after-dismal-showing-against-real-madrid/

It's a bit of a lifeline. Another heavy defeat would have seen heads go down at the club. But, apart from the scoreline, which of course is what counts most of all, the stats against us were as one sided as in the Leicester game: Possession: 76% - 24% Shots: 25 - 3 Corners: 17 - 0 The key differences were that McCarthy is a better goalkeeper than Gunn, and kept us in the game and, of course, this time we were playing with 11 men. Still, only losing 2-1 means we can go into the Everton game with more confidence than if we'd been thrashed again.

Another first team coach then. After failing as our goalkeeping coach, that's how Dave Watson was moved while Kelvin got moved there from his role in hospitality, where, presumably, he wasn't doing very well either.

No, nobody has in the last few years, which is exactly what I said. Why are people so desperate to argue on here when basically, as Saints fans, we agree?

They were only trying to protect the fans from the sight of seeing another Saints team thrashed at home and they didn't even succeed at that. We still got to see them thrashed 1-4 by Brighton.

Our record against Man City until 2017 was: Total won 31 drew 25 lost 29 Simple as that.

Good idea. But, Hong Kong flags would be even more effective right now and most effective of all would be the burning of a Chinese flag. Of course, it would mean we'd never be able to attract wealthy Chinese owners like the ones at Wolves and Man City. "CFG turned to China in the latter half of 2015, first offering themselves as a host location for high-level business talks between the government leadership of the United Kingdom and the People's Republic of China before agreeing a £265m sale of shares to a consortium of Chinese state-backed investment firms China Media Capital and CITIC Capital. The deal made the two companies a combined 13% part-owner of CFG and therefore of Manchester City, giving in exchange a significant partnership allowing both City and CFG to expand into the Chinese market in a variety of directions."