Chez

he's a Chelsea fan by the way. He just commentated on the Skates on the Quay radio...so still a skate I suppose ;-)

Yoshida headed goal. Great header.

Lots of talent and can make things happen, but at the moment he is struggling. One issues is that he has no left foot at all, so when played left wing he constantly stops and comes inside when he reaches the byeline. Opponents have spotted this and his unwillingness to use his swinger ever to keep fullbacks honest means they are there before he is when he does come inside. He seems to be the whipping boy. Things are not going well, but it's not all his fault. It's not as though Tadic or Long have pulled any trees up either.

Kevin Wimmer.

Up to our eyeballs in debt?

It's the players that are lining their pockets. The wage bill keeps rising, which is fine if the team keep getting better. That said I struggle to get my head around our debt increasing. If we are not self sufficient now when will we ever be?

Really. Makes me angry just reading his name. Kin ****.

boy did we look toothless that day. I ****ing hate games up there. We are woeful year after year.

isnt rotation enabled by squad strength rather than forcing it?

Came for a couple of crosses and made it off his line out to the edge of his box a couple of times. Maybe he has turned a corner. We badly need our senior guys to,raise their game.

thanks, made me chuckle, much needed after the game today.

Stop listening to the manager. Simple. I stopped doing that when Adkins kept talking ******** interview after interview and it makes the whole process of supporting Saints better. I haven't come up with a solution for watching the boring football,though...

I'm guessing the squad was compiled in the summer to the size required and budget available. Is the club now willing and or able to add more players and their wages half way through the season? Is the flexibility required possible? I mean, signing another striker for example could be a £40m investment fee and wages. Can clubs our size make that sort of 'gamble' now? Just asking...

quite a simplistic evaluation of a manager that did a great job at Burton and then a fantastic job at Brum before new Chinese owners got rid on the back of one poor display so they could get their photo taken with a Chelsea legend. I put his name forward in the summer. The only negative would be where he could attract top class players, but then again it's the wages we offer that matters most.

Take a look at the effort Fonte made blocking Wanyama from scoring the other night. I find it hard to equate that he is biding his time with a body on the line block. Careful also not to let your dislike of a player such as Redmond to get in the way of an assessment about effort. Playing poorly and not trying are two separate things. Regarding Long, he usually gives his all, it's just a lock of quality that lets him down. I do wonder though if he was miffed at being left out...again. Tadic is playing poorly. Not sure he has ever bust a gut though. Classie simply does not do enough or make enough tackles. For a CM he is just not a big enough factor in the game. Not sure if that is just him rather than a lack of effort. The players are trying, they just look a littl clueless going forward. I don't put that down to tactics alone, it's a lack of quality of individual. Only Boufal looks dangerous.

tiredness. shortly before the incident you could see he was stretched. Tired, he made a poor decision. Quite simply he was run ragged. We don't control games, we hang on for grim life because we don't have good enough individuals keeping the ball well. A gradual erosion of talent does that.

slighly worried about who is making the decisions on spending these days. There is a lot of potential at the club, but we could do with an instant hit or two like we had with Tadic and Pelle.

May ask which? I am never good at spotting players that are 'not interested'. Having said that when long mis controlled a throw in near the end I didn't just put it down to him being a very average player with a poor first touch, it actually looked like he didn't really give a **** as we were two or three down and the game was lost and he'd not been haven playing time so was annoyed. I'm probably reading into it too much, or was mistaken, but thought I'd mention it.

Get the youth in seems to be the defacto save all method fans turn to when things are going badly. It's bull****. Improving the side is the way forward, not making it younger. Better is better, younger is younger.

Arsenals third team, burnley get that pen it could have been a different story, Bournemouth had a bad day and West Ham were all over the place back then. Ok, so I haven't acknowledged what we did in those games, but those wins don't convince me we are a decent side underperforming. I think we are an average side now playing without confidence.

pretty accurate, but we don't create enough chances in games, and when going behind we get very desperate and leave huge gaps that get exposed. In my eyes we have too many very average players. This side feels like the side we would have when our top talent moved on. It feels like an old school saints season...

Agreed. However I don't see eleven players in any sort of form. We are going to have to grit a few games out like we did last season when we went five at the back. No goals though mean we have major problems.

Football not especially turgid today. We just look like a very average team playing without confidence. That as is a terrible combination.

tough crowd.

Who is actually worth picking right now?