CB Fry

Switzerland is the home of the Toblerone after all.

Ooof. That's awful. Get well soon.

Maik Taylor was a forces child and was born in Germany but there must be someone since then, surely?

Le Tissier is Shearer's mate and Ian Wright was full of praise and was raving about his best goals video. Matty got plenty of airtime on the programme last night too.

Just to recap, you described a few behind closed doors football matches as "the most high risk activity you can think of" in the context of this crisis and then said you were fine with 40,000 hairdressers opening up serving millions of people in villages towns and cities all over the country. You don't understand anything about what is happening. Don't worry about it.

But the only person showing an emotional reaction is you. I don't think football is going to restart because I "give a sh it" about football, its because it would be an appropriate thing to do in the correct stage of a reduction of lockdown. Personally I I don't give a sh it about hairdressers. You are the only person making emotional, personal subjective judgements about who is allowed to be responsible for Covid deaths: someone connected to one of the 40,000 hairdressers fine, someone connected to professional sport not fine. Clear. But you realise that the opposite it also true in the boundaries you have drawn up. Single parent hairdresser has your permission to work to put food their table but the children of local journalist in Newcastle writing about Newcastle United, or a social media exec working for Burnley can fu ck off and starve. Clear.

Earlier up this thread you were complaining about other people making "false equivalences" and getting jolly upset. But yeah, well done on a really good point about, er, a Polo tournament at Eton. I think we all get it. You're absolutely hysterical.

We're going round in circles because you don't understand how this virus actually works. Once you've opened up every single hairdressers in Britain, once you've decided to take that risk - which you are quite happy with - then the additional risk of putting on some football matches behind closed doors is statistically jack sh it. There are millions of people in and out of hairdressers and garden centres and DIY shops and bookshops but that's all fine as long as you can make some "principles" point about an activity involving only hundreds of people, not millions and millions of people. Crystal clear. Your only actual objection to Premier League football is money is evil and TV companies are evil and the owners are evil and football is evil. But all of this was exactly the same three months ago. So maybe ask yourself what are you doing on a Premier League football club fans forum and supporting such an industry that you seem to object to so much?

But pumping out entertainment into people's homes can encourage them to stay at home. That is part of the thinking behind getting football back up and running. The government are supporting activities like this for that reason. It's a bit strange people don't understand that.

I think it's pretty dangerous to accuse others of false equivalence when you have said that some behind closed doors football matches is the highest risk activity you can think of in relation to this virus, especially when the things you are prepared to support (millions of different people going to the hairdressers) is unequivocally, statistically, epidemiologically and in absolute terms massively much more of a risk.

I've got contacts involved in this deal and I am hearing that Denis Bergkamp is only interested because of Jackson's Farm, while Koeman had been badgering the council about structural improvements to Western Esplanade for years and has decided this is the only way to make them really listen.

Someone calling a few behind closed doors football matches "the highest risk activity there is" deserves to be patronised. All I think is that the current lockdown measures will not remain in place completely the same as now for the entirety of the month of June, and that the lifting of restrictions will not be determined by waiting for zero people to be dying of Coronavirus. Things are a little bit more complicated than that.

That's funny I don't recall anyone, anywhere, at all, saying that the easing of restrictions should "start" with Premier League football matches. Do show me who has suggested this. I'm not saying we should "crack on" with anything sweetheart. But it is interesting you have quite a blasè attitude about 40,000 locations of hairdressers, let's say 4 staff per outlet, 10 customers a day six days a week - millions of people, all touching each other, every day. But yeah, you seem super glib about that. Coupla masks, bit of distancing, splash of disinfectant. No probs. There's not going to be any variation in standards there, that's for sure. Compare that to a few locations in the country where 50 people, all tested in a controlled and highly monitored environment, plus a supporting workforce smaller than a typical garden centre, an Amazon warehouse or food factory that could all socially distance just as well as a hairdresser in Barnsley can. I think you can criticize parts of the government's approach without going into hysterical meltdown about some behind closed doors football matches being played at an appropriate time once restrictions are lifted. It's not "the highest risk activity there is". Jesus effing wept.

You're going to absolutely lose your sh it when every single hairdressers in the United Kingdom are back open. 40,000 of them. Despicable people basically saying a few deaths are okay so they don't lose their filthy money running their so-called "businesses" cutting and styling so called "hair". Worse than murderers.

We can only conclude that Duckie believes this is the very first time in human history that any public body has ever covered anything up.

And how did you manage to catastrophise that into 800,000 people on the streets of Liverpool?

Indeed. "Excellent for behind-closed-door matches during a global pandemic" is never the first thing on my list of requirements for a football stadium. But the Bet365 stadium could yet have its finest hour. But Stoke is also good from a connectivity perspective - you could easily see the North west clubs playing there.

Indeed. "Excellent for behind-closed-door matches during a global pandemic" is never the first thing on my list of requirements for a football stadium. But Stoke is also good from a connectivity perspective - you could easily see the North west clubs playing there.

What if, just after the kick off, a coach full of London based Liverpool fans crashed their coach into Buckingham Palace, setting the building alight and burning the Queen to death in the ensuing inferno? You're right let's cancel everything forever.

Pride Park would be an excellent choice - a ground that would be pretty easy to isolate from any groups of fans as not particularly close to any residential areas.

If only we'd built Stoneham we would be in prime position to host a behind closed doors match between Chelsea and Bournemouth. Absolutely sickening that Rupert Lowe did not plan ahead.

Which is exactly what will happen in the real world. When any data is compiled by the actual people conducting the tests, the data will only show real completed tests vs the positive results. I guess someone somewhere will track tests sent vs tests returned but that's of limited interest. Save it for the public enquiry when we find out the Tories splammed a load of tests to people on the electoral roll or on the Conservative Party mailing list to get the numbers up on April 30th.

He's dun the test target he has. Hancock currently going through his Oscar acceptance speech about it.

Yes. I only remember the date now because about 15 years later my daughter was born that same day, and I noticed the link a couple of years back. So Le Tissier's performance now only the second best thing that ever happened on that day.

Early nineties, tail end of Branfoot to Alan Ball era. Fan power in the protests which as a 15 year old was brilliant to be involved in, the Ball resurgence was miraculous and one of the rare moments that a new manager bounce really worked. Ronnie freakin Ekelund. And still standing at the Dell and rolling around the Milton end when a goal went in. I had Saturday job so only went on evenings and Sundays but luckily significant things happened sometimes (Sunday October 24 1993 i was there, and Crossley saving MLT's pen must have been an evening match too). Great days. I wish I was young.