CB Fry

Pretty obvious. At worst if we don't get through the play offs they've got a 25% reduction on their ideal number of group games featuring English sides. And even if we do, they're lumbered with a load of group games featuring a team with a small fanbase. In year one of a very expensive TV deal, not ideal. They'll want Man United in, trust me.

In fairness the Financial Director of BT Sport will have the most sleepless nights. Will be a massive headache for them if we finish fourth.

*****?

LOL.

Well we haven't finished top four yet, or qualified for the Champions League proper yet, and we are a long way away from establishing ourselves as a Champions League club competing and competitive over a number of seasons. I don't think anyone said we couldn't challenge for top four in any given season - like Everton have done - that's certainly what I've always said. But that is a long way away from being an established Champions League club.

The Wiganisation of Everton continues.

So is what we're trying to do "nigh on impossible" or not? I'd say it is, and we're doing brilliantly to still be in contention in January.

We haven't got into the Champions League yet, and it is nigh on impossible to do what we've done. No one else has done it for a long while. You not that impressed with our manager and players then and what they've achieved this season? I reckon they've exceeded all expectations, personally.

Who could have possibly predicted you would crawl out and post on this thread. Oh yeah, everyone. Well done on a very mediocre post.

Our "Steve Wigley level manager" has done okay, hasn't he?

If, as the boring one tells us, us fickle fans should treat all departures of club staff the same regardless of whether they were good or crap, why did Franco spend eight months on here openly weeping about the departure of the chief executive? Surely he should have treated it just the same as the departure of Lee Hoos?

You're calling his time at S****horpe (basically a lower L1/L2 that he over promoted) a failure? Okay then. Owen Coyle, Dyche, Aidy Boothroyd, Holloway etc all got into the Prem with clubs of a level the NA could get a job at. Anyway, I didn't mean that he will get promoted again with his very next job, but I think he could again sometime. Still think he will manage Wigan someday.

Why? If Mick McCarthy, Sean Dyche, Neil Warnock, Owen Coyle and Ian Holloway can get promoted to the Premier League why can't our Nigel again?

There are always articles about that stuff from time to time. However, lots wouldn't agree that the current set up is particularly "harmful" to the league. What's harmful about it and who is it harming? And haven't we we "ripped" players from Burnley, Palace, Twente, Feyenoord and others with big fees and "wages on offer"? But you're "complicit" in us doing that, right?

Has to be Lambert. Apart from the goals he was, as a flagship signing, symbolic of our intent to spend our way up the divisions. Later he became a symbol of how the nucleus of a L1 team could establish themselves as a Premier league force. I, for one, won't be "getting over" Rickie Lambert any time soon.

Our manager won't, thank f uck. Go for it Ronald.

Saw Daniel Kitson and Tim Key in "Tree" last night. Two very funny comedians in something a little too slight for their talents. Amusing enough but could have been funnier. Kitson as a compere or doing straight stand up is peerless but might just be letting his desire to be different overcome his innate ability to be hilarious. Still love him.

This. Winning all six is fairyland stuff and if we do we're nailed on third, let alone fourth. We'll lose at least one of the next six but it doesn't mean we can't make fourth.

This.

How many keepers get loaned for whole/half seasons between, say, Hampshire League clubs? Genuine question, can't imagine it is that many. I think the point is that I am not sure the FA have jurisdiction over the Premier and Football League loan system. We already know the two leagues have different loan rules to each other, and the agreement from a couple of years ago for Prem teams to loan between themselves was agreed by the 20 clubs, it wasn't an FA ruling. So the FA rules is not where we should be going for guidance on this, I guess.

Don't worry. I don't think we'll make any progress in the cup today at all.

It's not a "false claim" to say that you said that 9 points from 10 games was "the level required" for 5th/6th. You wrote it. The only "false claims" we get is the constant protests you never said things that are quoted directly back at you. But this false claiming from you has been going on for a long time now. Worth pointing out though when you try and blame others.

Ha. I did the same thing last week for about 6 minutes and thought the same. Not sure why it is presented by Dame Judi Dench now, either.

If we actually do get into the Champions League I think there might be a few confused and disappointed people on here.