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Absolutely. Would be gutted if they end up with Wellbeck while we end with Long.

Drunk as a skunk.

So what? You want us to have a Championship level squad with the likes of Danny Seaborne?

Been looking inevitable for a while. If the club think he hasn't got a future here, then there we go. Seems unnecessary, as he's never let us down.

I heard that. Sounds unlikely to me unless we get that if they go up, which would be very nice work.

Well, not really. A decent season here would make him a seasoned, proven, Premier League young English left back and ten million is your asking price.

When we signed Tadic no one immediately started talking about him as the only logical option for us the way Long is being described by some now. And what didnt happen with Tadic was that anyone daring to be slightly underwhelmed by Long is then rounded on to NAME SOMEONE BETTER like Shane Long was the perfect fit no-brainer signing we all wanted all along. But such a perfect fit that no one mentioned him, despite gazillions of players speculated here upon since May and the fact he has been a front line Prem name for half a decade, not like Tadic.

Still think we will go for a winger and Byram or a bit of RB cover. We'll do a deadline deal or two.

Who remembers twenty four hours ago, back in the days when absolutely no one on here at all was talking about us signing Shane Long, or saying they wished we were signing Shane Long?

I've heard it all now. Thank god for this forum and its "warnings" of asset stripping successfully changing the owners mind. Thank you, SaintRichmond, thank you.

Yes, but he needs to have a medical first.

No other fans of any other club would ever dream of doing such a thing.

Don't quite agree. A 8 goal a season merchant from Series A I'd find less appealing than Long to be honest. The Ramirez and Osvaldo experiences will have put plenty of people off the supposed glamour of Carlos Kickaball types. Most fans aren't that pie eyed, and some potential foreign signings have been given short shrift on here. I thing Long is perfectly solid addition, if expensive, but I think fans are permitted to be underwhelmed by a signing that is pretty uninspired.

When you say "I moan and bed wet about anything", what does that even mean? I've been supportive of Krueger, Reed and the owner all summer, delighted with Koeman, happy with our signings to now, and pragmatic about our departures (excluding Chambers). I've had plenty of stick on here for defending the club and what has happened this year. So to lamely try and tag me as a moaning bed wetter is rather pathetic on your part. The hilarious thing is I am fine with us buying Long if Koeman wants him, but defend the right of people on here to be underwhelmed, because amongst other things he clearly wasn't a first choice target. And he is a underwhelming signing. He just is. It's people like you who hadn't even considered us going for Shane Long until 10pm last night coming on here suggesting there are no better options and how great it all is, based purely on the fact that we now want him. If he signed for QPR no one would care about Shane Long. And I'll repeat: if all you want to read is "let's wait and see" on a forum thread about a new signing, then forums really aren't for you.

So, you didn't suggest Shane Long. Glad that's clear. Why do you expect me to suggest players then? And jolly sweet you think I am not going to wait and see how he does. What does that actually mean in your head?

Were you saying we should be signing Shane Long this time yesterday, then? Or last week or month?

Not my job. And I am not going to name names for you to shoot down, because if we signed any of those players you'd be raging at anyone being underwhelmed and saying wait and see. If QPR had signed Long, would you be on here furious that we didn't?

What's my judgement on Long then? I know, I tell you what it is: we've bought 8 Premier League goals, which are not easy to come by. I say that earlier in this thread. Or on the rumours thread. Problem with that?

Tadic, Bertrand, Pelle, Taider, Forster, Gardos.

The main rule is for people with perspective and stuff to describe people being rather underwhelmed by an underwhelming signing at a high price as "constantly moaning and bed wetting". Well done you.

Don't think forums are for you then.

Well my point was this situation is not comparable to when we signed Lambert, so people can stop pretending to "remember" how the forum responded negatively. Secondly, although some wanted a marquee signing, I didn't, but I think following on from the "our scouting network is outstanding" stuff earlier in the season, I think we were as fans allowed to expect some new talent to arrive who would engage and excite the fans - Tadic has, Gardos will. If Stoke, WHU, Leicester or QPR had signed him it would merit five posts on the "other clubs transfers" thread, so let's not pretend Shane Long is the only option a club like ours could get.

Of course it is, and every single contributor to this thread will do exactly that, so what's your point?

I'm putting the Lambert signing into context, not saying we can sign a proven 15 goal a season Prem striker. Lambert was clearly Pardew's first choice marquee signing in L1, so comparison with us signing Shane Long now is ridiculous, as he is definitely not that. Shane Long has a track record we can all see, so people being underwhelmed have clear information to go on.

When people decide to roll out the "I remember it being just like this when we signed so-and-so" made - up story, it's funny they always pick players who turned out well, isn't it. What about "remembering" the response to us signing Mayuka, or Forren, or Gazzaniga, or other players who funnily enough did not prove forum horrible people wrong. There is nothing wrong with people being underwhelmed with an underwhelming signing with a proven record of being average in the division we are in. It's not the forum's problem, it's down to player and manager to deliver.