CB Fry

The big difference is when wolves were for sale Jack Hayward let the buyers (presumably this Morgan chap) have the club for a pound just as long as they commited to investing x million into the team. I think it would take more than a pound and some nice football-team related investment promises to prise the shares out of Rupert's cold, dead hand.

Oh dear, you won't fit in around here. You seem to be labouring under the assumption that going into administration is a bad thing, and does no good whatsoever for the club going into admin. Frankly you're wrong. Administration is a fantastic empowering experience that makes all clubs fifty times stronger than ever before and shooting back up through the leagues like Apollo 11. It will be the single greatest thing that ever happens to us and I for one will be dancing on the streets when we go into admin as it is second only to winning the Euromillions on a quadruple rollover. Or something. Well it must be that for the number of fans on here screaming for us to "take the plunge" and ranting on about how brilliant it will be to have "a clean slate".

Who from? Nineteen canteen who is just SomeDunce reincarnated? You're seeing some gigantic pro Lowe movement to rail against that simply isn't there.

Manager of team says he is pleased that some of his best players were not sold in the transfer window.....and then gets absolutely ripped apart by some fans for saying such a thing. Read it again and ask yourself - what are you actually getting upset about? What the f uc k is wrong with some people.

Now that is a bit of a strange wish. The funny thing is Nicholl never did anything of note at any other club, which for a man who had five years top flight experience and was pretty successful against anyone's standards, was quite odd. He was at Walsall for about five minutes, disappeared, came back to Walsall as Ray Graydon's assistant and now he does something for the pools panel or press association or something where he counts how many corners are taken at matches in the midlands. I'm sure he'd jump at the chance to finish what he started in 1991

Do remind us what you're "doing" again? You've said many times you have no desire to do anything, which is fair enough, but that means you can't spout rubbish like that last line. You're proving my point. The fact is no-one except for a couple of people on this forum (on a wind up IMO) want Lowe to remain. But that's too difficult for you and others to grasp so you have to rail against anyone who doesn't take up the extreme view of wanting him dead and his guts dragged up Western Esplanade, and make out there's a huge swell of pro Lowe people you have to go into battle against. And bang on, and on, and on about the same old stuff. We got relegated did we? £90,000 in the first season down, eh? Dutch morons in charge? No. shi t. The people you think you are locked in a 100 years war with? They don't exist. And don't make out you are at war "against Lowe" because you have admitted in the past to doing nothing (again, fair enough, I'm with you).

Well, we haven't finished seventh in the top division since Nicholl.

He was definitely sacked, I remember the Echo reports at the time described him as the first Saints manager ever to be sacked (fancy that, these days!). I think Nicholl finished fifteenth or so in his last season, but you're right apart from the brilliant season of finishing seventh we tended to be about 12th in his time with us. He put together a great little team and is responsible for me loving Saints to this day.

He might own shares still, but he'll be gone from the front line. For one Wilde will turn tail and hang him out to dry and probably end up back in bed with Crouch. He's not the Terminator T1000, he's just a tw at with a suit. He won't hang around for re-promotion this time.

Not everyone missed it, it must have been certain TV regions that missed it, I live in the East Midlands and I saw the goal. There was a two second cut out but it came back well before the goal.

I saw the goal. I fuc king hate liverpool so it was brilliant.

I think I'll enjoy a long glass of something cold, sat on the patio, drinking in the mid August sunshine thinking "well, they won't all be as easy as Walsall at home".

What a plank. Mandaric got through countless managers at Fratton - Ball, Claridge, Pulis and Rix before he got Arry in and still managed to lose him before going through a couple more managers. And he "learnt his lesson" at Leicester by getting through Kelly, Worthington, Allen, Megson, Taggart and Holloway in just over a season and relegating the club to league one. What a f uc king hero. Saints fans wetting themselves over someone who relegated his team to the lowest position they have ever been through chopping and changing the manager left right and centre. And he hasn't yet sacked his manager who has been at the top of the league all season. What a "brave" decision to stick with Pearson so far..... You really could not make this up.

You do realise apart from two wind up merchants on here no-one supports Lowe anymore. So you can stop frothing at the mouth about stuff that happened ten years ago because christ its been done to death.

This is 100% correct. The original post on this thread is ******** and yet more evidence of the club "historian" turning into a club "speculator", club "assumer" and heaven forbid club "stooge" for good old Leon. Lowe will be responsible for our relegation and then will be gone, I'm sure. These kind of threads speed up Lowe's departure not a jot more and they certainly don't help us get any more points on the table. But if Leon and his pet historian are happy with their efforts, fair play to you both.

I think the plan was to be doing that last season

If we do go down, and I think that is the most likely scenario, then the damage has already been done. You're taking three massive leaps - one that we would have got huge amounts of cash for Surman and Lallana, and two that the money we'd got in for those two would have been spent on better replacements and three those better replacements would have slotted into the team and played with the kind of conviction and spirit that for all their faults Adam and Drew do display. Last year's team was chock full of well paid "big name" players and where did that get us? Relegation out of our hands on the final day. You can get all upset about how we've missed an opportunity this transfer window by not buying many players, but I don't remember seeing that much on here about our lack of purchases during January itself. The rumour angst mill was all about who was being sold. So few of us realists ever expected a recruitment drive, and very few of the extremists expected one either. Most of us realists expected one two or three departures. The first happened as expected, but the second didn't, which is a small mercy. Be thankful for it, instead of getting worked up about a scenario that frankly was never, ever on the cards.

I don't really see the connection. If you are really saying "it wouldn't have mattered if Davies and Surman had been flogged" then fair enough, that's your opinion. But you and I know that had those players been sold on Monday you and plenty like you would not have shrugged and said "oh, well, they were rubbish anyway". You would have wanted Lowe's head on a stick.

Look out Premier League here come the super managers Martinez - maybe manage in the Prem one day Nigel Adkins - well... Steve Tilson - um.... Mike Newell - currently at Grimsby.... Paul Sturrock - well I like him but unlikely to trouble the Prem any time soon. Paul Jewell - okay, we have one. Peter Taylor - cast iron Premier League fu ck up. Dennis Wise - arf. Let's not expect any of these managers to be sweeping into White Hart Lane or Eastlands any time soon..... Let's not get carried away that winning League one is some passport to managerial mega stardom.

Sorry, where did I say he didn't? I know exactly what he did at Carlisle, you're the one making out he'd never managed before.

He was manager of Carlisle in the fourth division way back in 1999 back when George Burley was powering up to fourth in the Premier League. And then didn't get a managers job anywhere for eight years until his best mate's dad got him a nice little number at St Mary's.

It'll be tickets sold, so the real figure in the stadium is almost certainly smaller. I would venture a few ST holders can't or won't make it tonight as well as a few Sheff Utd fans who bought tickets and then decided against it.

Amen to all this. It's a tragedy we have had to let the likes of John and Rasiak slope off on loan, and let the likes of Skacel rot in the name of cost cutting when you see the pheonomenal amount of waste on the below average drivel we are shipping in. Players on players on players that are scraping ten games all season between them. Being that the whole point of the revolutionary structure was to bring the senior and academy teams together, I don't understand the need for these reserve teamers swamping in the middle. A solid 16 senior players with all cover provided by the kids. That wouldn't have been that revolutionary, but it might have bloody worked. An absolute disgrace.

I take it you've never read the work of SaintRichmond, then? We haven't sold anyone, which I think is a pretty good result and a lot better than many were expecting, including me. Why people can't just accept that as a "pretty good thing" is beyond me. Whichever way you look at it, there are plenty of posters smarting over the fact that we haven't sold anyone because it blows their prejudices into pieces for now and they can't churn out their usual one-note one-eyed horse-sh it. It's just a shame because some people just cannot see the world (and the world of Saints especially) in shades of grey.

Of course there's an element of truth in it. We are where we are and most of us know why. All that amuses me over the last couple of days is the desperate reformatting of arguments now that the accepted wisdom "everyone that could be sold will be sold" has proved to not be the case. People on here had Lallana and Surman "flogged to the highest bidder in January" after they'd played two good games in a row in September. And all the Hystericals decided that was truth and that was that. Anyone who challenged that accepted truth was shouted down. And when the club came out and said "no players would be sold" in the first week of Jan, the Hystericals said they were lying, it was Lowe propaganda and all the rest of it. But that is exactly what has happened. If it was Leon Crouch making and fulfilling a promise like that you wouldn't be able to move for the Hystericals queuing round the block to su ck him off. I don't expect anyone to thank Lowe for anything, I want him gone as you well know. But for pete's sake - all in all, a pretty good window. What's amusing is people aren't happy to accept that as quite a good thing, and instead have to weave silly new theories.