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No-one is saying it's OK, I'm definitely not. Anyone who throws racist abuse around is clearly an idiot.

It is obviously being racist but insults are part of football. For example singing "you fat bastard" at a slightly overweight footballer is just banter - going up to someone randomly in the the street and calling them a fat bastard is very different.

I'm pretty sure he's aware of the context. I think his point is that players are generally abused because they play for the opposition, not because of their race (even if it is a racist insult). It doesn't make it right, but it's a bit different to going up to someone in the street and insulting them because of their race.

I've seen more racism at work or down the pub than at football. To be honest in about 30 years of supporting Saints I could count on one hand the amount of racist chants I've heard at the Dell or St Mary's. EUFA should come down harder on those Eastern European c*nts though.

Agree with this, St Mary's needs to be more hostile. The more abuse any Liverpool player gets the better.

9 hours and the best they could come up with is ‘try and pin it on Corbyn’.

I reckon refs in other countries also make mistakes.

Yeah, it's obvious he agonised real hard, the way he went from boycotting to full on placard-waving pr!ck in one fell swoop.

There isn’t a majority in Parliament for anything. The Deal on the table is pretty much as good as it will get, maybe amend it to Ken Clarke’s proposal and put it to the country and take the whole thing out of Parliament’s hands. If the country still wants to leave it takes effect the day after the referendum and the government negotiates the trade deal going forward.

It got rejected by 58 votes, wasn’t even close.

It was obviously discussed but it wasn’t exactly high up the agenda, whereas now it is a major issue. I’ve never once mentioned Goldman Sachs you bellend. You are just wrong all the time on here aren’t you?

Leave on the deal.

The NI issue is reason enough to have a second refurendum, it was barely mentioned before the last vote.

Parliament is just not working. A people's vote is the obvious way forward.

Now I guess Boris will suddenly decide he wants to be PM and with the deal already signed and sealed he can blame it all on May when things go **** shaped.

Looked like all sorts for the pics I saw, plenty of non-white faces.

True, but it's still a lot clearer what Brexit means now than back in 2016. It's not about anyone winning or losing, it's about us deciding what's best for our country. If Brexit makes us poorer we all lose.

I will have to read it. What was their theory on how they disposed of the body?

Just watched the Netflix series and also found it a bit boring. Well produced but nothing really new in it just lots of moody shots of the resort. The dog evidence does raise a few questions but the idea that the McCanns did it then calmly went and had tapas with their doctor mates is just nonsense, especially as being on holiday without a car means they had no means of disposing of the body. The one interesting thing in the programme was the fact that they had made a block booking of the tapas restaurant, which meant that anyone who knew that would also know that their kids were alone in their apartment at that same time each night. I wouldn’t be surprised if the abductor knew this somehow. I can’t believe they left three young kids home alone like that, they should have got done for neglect.

Disgusting behaviour by Cardiff, they should honour the deal whatever the fine details of the signing.

Think that is nonsense, it was EU immigration that was obviously the main issue. And to be fair, since EU immigration has fallen after the Brexit vote average wages have gone up: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/sep/11/unexpected-rise-uk-pay-growth-jobless-total-40-year-low

I'm still not sure how the HOC can vote through a deal they have mostly agreed is bad for the country just because they are scared to let the people have a final say. A second ref is not exactly a great example of democracy but surely it's preferable to a collective act of self harm. In the short term the MPs might claim credit for acting out the will of the people but long term, if it f*cks the country up then they will pay the price.

You have to agree that a refurendum now would be a more informed descision? By far the most important thing we know now that we didn’t back then was what a useless bunch of ****s the Conservatives are at negotiating a deal. The EU have played hardball, there has been no banging on doors by German car manufacturers - it’s no deal or a sh!t deal. We had no idea of that first time around. Plus there is a whole load of other stuff that we’re not really seriously considered, like The Northern Ireland border problem.

I agree in principle but in reality it was never clear what was being voted for, now it is much clearer so the common sense thing to do, if we are to make the right descision, is to vote again. Problem is everything has got so polarised and you have two groups of nob heads desperate to win their argument at any cost, common sense doesn’t get a look in.

They will probably allow an extension on the condition of there being a second refurendum.