miserableoldgit

And I don`t object to that. My "bleat" that the club could have changed what is in effect, their own rules in a more gradual fashion rather than hitting us with a 72% hike in one go.

I honestly don`t know. I only turned 60 in 2009 so the concession thing didn`t apply to me till then. I suspect that the concession has always started at 60 as this is the case generally across the board.

You are. At no point in any of my posts have I said that the club is ripping us off. My point is that one section of the fan-base has had AN UNEXPECTED 72% RISE IN THEIR SEAT PRICE. These people have naturally, I think, moaned about AN UNEXPECTED 72% RISE IN THEIR SEAT PRICE. Another section of the fan who haven`t had AN UNEXPECTED 72% RISE IN THEIR SEAT PRICE are telling the first section to "shut the **** up" and to move places or go to B and Q with Doris. The second section who haven`t had AN UNEXPECTED 72% RISE IN THEIR SEAT PRICE are of course wonderful saintly people who wouldn`t raise a murmer if they had AN UNEXPECTED 72% RISE IN THEIR SEAT PRICE and would accept it like the meek little lambs that they are. Does this make it clearer??

As I`ve said before, missing the point completely.

Bugger!!

What ever happened to Sol Cambell`s claim??

Sadly DD you are just confirming how small minded you are. I have been watching Saints since the mid 1950`s and a ST holder since the mid 1970`s paying full price all of that time. I think that I have put enough money into Saints pockets over that time to deserve a standard, legal concession when it is offered. How much have you put in. Will you refuse a concession when you are offered one?? What I didn`t realise is that I have been ripping off all of you "Uber-Fans" for the last couple of years. I should replied to all of the threads on here that have been targetting old people for conning the club with their sneaky back-door "concessions" - the bastards! Oh, hang on a minute...... there haven`t been any!

I don`t think that they will squinny. They will just "shut the **** up" and accept it with good grace..........won`t they????

O.K. To try and stop some of the argument. here is my point. Firstly, throughout the country, wherever I go, whatever I do, generally concessions start at 60. Whether this is right or wrong is open to debate, bearing in mind that womens retirement age has been 60. There are also concessions at the other end of the spectrum, i.e students etc. Here for example is the concessions rate for The Mayflower :- Concessions Where listed, concessions apply to: Over 60's Students over 18 in full time education People receiving Disability Related Allowances Essential Companions to Disabled People receiving Jobseeker's Allowance There will usually be a separately listed discount for under 18s Should these other people get concessions? Should we be subsidising them? After all, "if you can`t afford it, don`t go". My problem with what Saints have done is not what they have done but how they have done it. I am sure that they could with a little thought have introduced the raised age for concessions gradually. To essentially raise a price by 72% without warning, for generally the longest serving customers is insensitive and heavy-handed at best. Without going into my own personal situation, I budgeted for a 30%-ish rise and it was suddenly over twice that. If I was a women ST holder aged 60 to 65, perhaps with no husband still working, I would be REALLY ****ed off with it! But the thing that has upset me is the lack of understanding of the situation by the "I`m alright Jack. I doesn`t effect me so shut the **** up" brigade who obviously know best. They are "bleating" the same old ill informed arguments as much as we are "bleating" about the rise. And I thought "Together We Are The Saints." Yeah right!!

I do hope that they don`t bump into the Naked Bike Ride!!

The Sullivan Ballou letter from Ken Burns superlative American Civil War documentary. Very moving. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2hv8U8cWU&feature=related

Not for women, bigmouth! Oh, and when you learn to speak English properly and can put a sensible argument forward, come back and have another go.

Not sure how genuine these are, but they are quite funny:- SOME EXAMPLES OF LETTERS OF COMPLAINT TO BASSETLAW DISTRICT COUNCIL FROM TENANTS > > 1. It's the dogs mess that I find hard to swallow. > > > > 2. I want some repairs done to my cooker as it has backfired and burnt my > > knob off. > > > > 3. I wish to complain that my father twisted his ankle very badly when he > > put his foot in the hole in his back passage. > > > > 4. Their 18 year old son is continually banging his balls against my > > fence. > > > > 5. I wish to report that tiles are missing from the outside toilet roof. I > > think it was bad wind the other day that blew them off. > > > > 6. My lavatory seat is cracked, where do I stand? > > > > 7. I am writing on behalf of my sink, which is coming away from the wall. > > > > 8. Will you please send someone to mend the garden path. My wife tripped > > and > > fell on it yesterday and now she is pregnant. > > > > 9. I request permission to remove my drawers in the kitchen. > > > > 10. 50% of the walls are damp, 50% have crumbling plaster, and 50% are > > just > > plain filthy. > > > > 11. I am still having problems with smoke in my new drawers. > > > > 12. The toilet is blocked and we cannot bath the children until it is > > cleared. > > > > 13. Will you please send a man to look at my water, it is a funny colour > > and > > not fit to drink. > > > > 14. Our lavatory seat is broken in half and now is in three pieces. > > > > 15. I want to complain about the farmer across the road. Every morning at > > 6am his cock wakes me up and it's now getting too much for me. > > > > 16. The man next door has a large erection in the back garden, which is > > unsightly and dangerous. > > > > 17. Our kitchen floor is damp. We have two children and would like a > > third, > > so please send someone round to do something about it. > > > > 18. I am a single woman living in a downstairs flat and would you please > > do > > something about the noise made by the man on top of me every night. > > > > 19. Please send a man with the right tool to finish the job and satisfy my > > wife. > > > > 20. I have had the clerk of works down on the floor six times but I still > > have no satisfaction. > > > > 21. This is to let you know that our lavatory seat is broke and we can't > > get > > BBC2. > > > > 22. My bush is really overgrown round the front and my back passage has > > fungus growing in it. > > > > 23. He's got this huge tool that vibrates the whole house and I just can't > > take it any more

Your`re not STILL harping on about this are you?? That`s the trouble with us old gits. We don`t know when to stop! The answer is simple. Either move to the Chapel or go to B & Q on a Saturday afternoon with Doris........apparently. Oh, and I forgot to tell you to shut the **** up.

Naoko Mori from Torchwood

But surely there is no guarantee that OXO will fulfil the potential that he has. I am not saying that he won`t, but if Arsenal (or anyone else) are prepared to spend £12M to take the chance and that money was WISELY invested in the team then it has to be worth thinking about. Whatever happens OXO staying or going will not decide whether we are promoted or not. If he went because we needed the money and he wasn`t replaced, then maybe but there are many, many other factors that will influence this

Could just be "Peacey Gone Mad"

I liked these two:- “If you see a man opening a car door for a woman, it means one of two things: it’s either a new woman or a new car!” To his wife, the Queen, after her coronation “Where did you get the hat?”

Might be something here:- http://www.mandmdirect.com/

I absolutey love my Desire S. IMHO better than the i-phone.

How can anyone claim that it is safe to ignore a red light at a road junction? I assume that it is still illegal to go through a red light.

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I can tell by the tone of your last post that you are a decent enough chap. Obviously a very tolerant and understanding sort of guy. Just the sort in fact to move to a new part of the ground without a murmer, a moan or a whinge when your ticket has risen by £215. Well done you.

What a prime example of the "I`m alright so **** you" attitude of some people. I will pay the new charge for my seat, even though I think the rise is unfair and has been badly handled by the club. I will do because it is my choice to do so and not because I have been stereotyped and patronised by a big mouthed cyber-warrior.