sotonjoe

Says you! If Gordon Brown stuck a couple of girls on a nuclear sub tomorrow, you'd be having a heart attack. ps ... when did UP go? He was a complete plank sometimes.

How is essentially reserving two seats, but only using one, a responsible practice? Surely you're minimising the number of seats available to other fans? I know we're not quite in danger of selling out the ground just yet, but if an element of people start doing this in popular areas of the ground, then ticket choice will become artificially limited.

Oh I am sorry Daren ... that clearly puts a whole new spin on things. I understand now that you read the original thread in great detail before making a blanaced decision to start a new one. It's just a shame that us mere mortals think you're repeating the same stuff again and again.

hell yeh. Who makes the fan dvds now though eh?

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=486808&postcount=3

Clearly, Javi and Amy are the only two worth mourning.

An interesting point and, if true, quite possibly more of a factor than Waigo's 'lightning quick' runs.

Incidentally, if having a whole end of home supporters is key, why did the vocal contingent head for the Northam stand in the first place?

is there a possible offside pun there somewhere?

you hope the seat next to yours is free.

exactly. this is exactly what i've been thinking. And tbf, I don't remember the pace of play in serie a being lightning fast either .. from watching it that is, not playing!

To imply that Waigo had a better game is pure craziness in my opinion. Antonio looked stronger and faster. Waigo relies solely on pace, I can't remember him actually taking a player on on Sat, he just tries to out run them, with limited success. Full credit to him for the way he held the ball up in the first half before putting in an excellent cross, but Antonio did much, much better. He was tapping the ball round the defender and going the other side, making up huge distances. He was also much better at winning fifty fifty balls.

stan smifs! I still have my two pairs from the links he posted! I'm even wearing the whites now.

oh yeh ... good point!

definitely electric first. A Yamaha Pacifica is an excellent first guitar that will be better than the usual Squire rubbish and will almost allow you to mix it with the big boys when you get a bit better. ps ... it's the pacific 112 you want http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/guitars_basses/el_guitars/pacifica112v_old_violin_sunburst/?mode=overview fret music always used to do them and they could be had for about £180.

it's awesome. i saw it when it was on at the national a couple of years back.

I'm not sure that's necessary and perhaps you are being a little facetious. It's common opinion that Waigo finds himself offside on many occasions. People have noticed it without needing to provide statistics to reinforce any feeling so that says something itself. Waigo vs the offside rule has been something of a running debate on here since he joined and I was amazed that he still looked relatively unaware yesterday after having been a part of the english game for some weeks now.

This is what I object to as I think it simply isn't true. There was one off side given against him in this manner during the first half (that I saw anyway). Waigo had actually started his lightning run before the other saints player had received the ball, therefore he had no chance of actually playing the ball to Waigo before Waigo ended up in an offside position. In this particular instance, Waigo again needs to judge his run better and it is not a case of Saints players being too slow for him. For the most part though, we're talking about different situations. The ones referred to in the op are when you have a line of defenders running back and an attacker in the middle of them. The ball is out on the wing in the possession of wingers etc. There is no element of the attacker (wiago) having out run the defenders etc as they should all be in a line. At these times he drifts offside constantly; and here the emphasis is on DRIFT, he's not making a sprint ready to recveive a pass that has yet to be played, he's just losing trackof where the line is and finding himself at least a foot the wrong side. Your argument about him just being too quick just doesn't work with what is actually happening out on the pitch imo.

I think AP did brilliantly yesterday and I certainly don't think he should be making wholesale changes. He just needs to sort out the issues I mentioned with the 4-5-1. You must support your frontman with that system otherwise you will lose the ball again and again. There was a clear change in formation when Connolly came on. The most obvious fact was that both Lambert and Connolly were playing in the centre forward role, although both seemed to be very mobile, dropping off when necessary etc. Perhaps the most interesting thing was that even though we lost a man in modfield at that point, we didn't lose our width. In fact, time and time again Antonio was doing great things down the right wing. It meant we were a little bare in the centre of midfiled though which is what made the 80 minute mark a little nervy. Overall, it was well judged by Pards, he just needs to make sure his 4-5-1 is doing what he wants it to.

i'm not sure, i was too excited by that point. I was sat in block 32 though and had a good opportunity to see how clueless he was when we were attacking the northam end in the first half. It's amazing how everybody in that part of the ground can see it , and yet he has clearly lost his head in the build up. It needs to improve soon or he'll find himself frozen out. Antonion did a great job when he came on, admittedly as part of a different system. But if Waigo can't do the job he's beine asked to do, then he won't be starting games much longer.

Yeh, and I was thinking a 'phew' as in "for it to have got better it would have had to have been worse at some stage" and I can't see how it could have been worse because it is still so bad. if that makes any sense

Sure, but it's pedantic of AP to stand there and say it's not 4-5-1 or whatever, when it clearly is. All you have to do it count the players on the pitch. Without getting too sidetracked though, the fact is that the 4-5-1 needs some tinkering if we're going to support the lone front man effectively. Antonio may well do a better job of getting in there and helping him than Waigo.

Good! TBF I can't see how it could have been any worse ;-)

Except that they are!

I had a good look at him yesterday and was amazed to see how unaware he still is with regards to finding himself offside. At times, he was jogging along, a clear yard offside, with large numbers of supporters screaming at him to get back onside. Surprise surprise, he doesn't and the whistle goes! Has there actually been any improvement over the past few games? This is not the case of him being too quick etc, I'm talking times when he is following the line of defenders at a medium pace, but it still a good foot or so the wrong side of them. It's as if he has his eye on the Saints player in possession and forgets all about the line of defenders!