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Not at all, what would be the difference if when working for SKY, Matty walked into the Channon suite to see some friends and was asked to leave because he hadn't paid his #100??? Someone has fccuked up here, and I'm not saying it's Lowe,Wilde or Crouch, but that's a very disgraceful way to treat a player who is probably our most prolific midfielder (MLT excluded if you call him a midfielder).

So if Matty has got a backstage pass and is working for SKY on a commentary game, are you teling me that it would be fair game to ask him to leave one of the hospitality suites if he walked in there with a chat with some friends at some point during the afternoon??? I might be wrong and it might just be an over zealous steward (ala Keegan and that old duffer on the gate up the Dell), but I have an inkling there is more to this than meets the eye. I'll do some digging to find out what the Club's line is on this one.

I make that 5 from 5.

We do have to play Charlton at home;)

It's up to the Trust members to start setting the tone for what they want to do. Just like that Ipswich game, today was a watershed for me.

That's what I have found positive, in that very rarely has any displeasure been directed at the players, who on the whole aren't responsoble for this fccking debacle we find ourselves saddled with. I think today was the final straw for many as even last time around I didn't witness such anger, resentment, frustration and hatred towards the Board. Who will take the lead, because something has to be done?

Even if they were not doing the Club much good (and I dispute that anyway), it pales into comparision with the damage that Poortvliet and Lowe are reeking on this Club. In the grand scheme of things, the fans come very near the bottom of what is wrong withthis Club, which is why I find it so hard to take people moaning about them, when the more culpable individuals are glossed over by some on here. If you vented just as much anger at Poortvliet, Wilde and Lowe, then i might respect you more, but instead your first dig, as always, is at the long suffering supporters. Arguably, protests against Poortvliet and Lowe, whenever they occur, are beneficial to this Club in the long run if it rids us of their divisive and failing presence.

Despite Lowe's poor decisions dragging us down, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that we are still a relatively attractive proposition. Perversely, our situation might actually be a positive for a new guy, because even if he fails he could say, "Well I inherited a sinking ship and I am not culpable, as there was nothing I could do". Let's not get stuck in the "Who would we replace him with?" as a reason to stick with this fcking joker.

Which sort of goes against your line that the players respond to the crowd, because they certainly never responded to the support they got for the majority of the game (and they have not responded to the support for the other 12 home games). It's fccking lame having a pop at the fans who finally vented their frustration and anger at a manager and CEO who have fcked us over royally, so IMHo I think you would do better to look at the real causes of the problem as opposed to reflecting on the obvious symptons that would manifest themselves at any club given what we have been subjected to.

But we performed worse when we supporting them than when the protest started so please feel free to explain that one:rolleyes: As for Lowe not being there, the Wilde, Richards and others who prop Lowe up were there and they need to get the message loud and clear.

I would say that most of the protests started at 2-0 down, but even if they started at 1-0 down that still means that during that period we drew 1-1, whereas when we were behind the team we lost 1-0. I'm sat here tonight fccking pssied off and saddened by what has happened to my Club and am finding it rather pathetic that you're continuing with this "Let's blame the fans" routine. The same routine that you have peddled for ages, although I notice you've now come round to wat a ridiculous appointment Poortvliet was.

No songs sung, 2-0 down. Songs sung, we pull one back. What is detrimental to our performance is a fccking sub standard manager, appointed by a sub standard CEO. You keep blaming the fans Nick, most of us realise the real problem lies elsewhere.

There's one thing changing the formation to try and chase a game, but that three at the back totally fccked us over. We lost our shape and they had a go at us, which resulted in their second goal. Naive, shocking, disgraceful, embarrassing, clueless, you could go on for ages to describe our tactics. Poortvliet was absent from the technical area for most of the second half. He must go!!!!!!

Two nil down at home to one of only two teams below you is fccking suicde!!!!!!!! What you saw today was just a sympton of a much bigger problem affecting this Club.

Sorry, but I didn't find anything about today funny!!!! Wilde was there and I hope Richards and a few others who prop up Lowe were there, because they are as responsible as Lowe himself for the predicament we find ourselves in. The shareholders need to withdraw their support for both Lowe and Poortvliet.

When I heard that I almost got my coat on and walked back up to St Mary's. Cheeky fccking cmnunt, you and Lowe have dragged this Club to it's lowest position in living memory and yet you have a chepa dig at us. Do your own job and we might not have a problem. Would love to meet him out on the street one day, the fccking joker.

Fcccking disgraceful. The lowest I have ever felt walking home from a match. The Club is imploding and something needs to be done to arrest this decline. Tactics, motivation, whatever, there can be no excuse for losing to a team as sh7t as Doncaster. Some people involved with Southampton FC should be hanging their heads in shame.

"The boys did what they had to do" And then alot of rambling. most of which I haven't got a fcccking clue what he meant. Fccccking clueless, out of his depth and an insult to the good fans of this Club. He has said he will not walk away so IMHO he needs to be run out of this Club!!!!!! I have no shame to admit that I would do whatever is necessary to get this clown out of this Club.

Fights in three of the stands. An attempted pitch invasion. People trying to get in the Directors box. The corporates going mental. Stewards run ragged. The death of SFC, it's tearing itiself apart.

And what extra debt would that be???? I think you'll find that for the period Crouch was really in situ (end of Dec - May) our debt was stable (if not reduced). He certainly made mistakes (i.e. the dithering over replacing Burley), but at the end of the day he, like Pearson, inherited a Club in freefall and on reflection both of them performed better than what we currently have in situ. I'm not overly sure I would want Crouch or McMenemy handling the day to day affairs and would much rather Crouch oversaw the appointment of an independent, competent and tasked CEO (as well as Chairman) and then took a seat on the board along with representatives of other shareholders and stakeholders. By the same token I find it beyond belief that some fans thought, and still think, that Lowe would be the saviour of our Club.

I would certainly agree that putting 2million into the CLub at this point in time would not be prudent from an investment position, but I think you miss Crouch's rationale for putting in 2million. IMHO I don't think he sees it as an investment, more that he would be doing it in an attempt to avoid administration and avoid the fall out of a firsale of any saleable assets, as well as stopping us from a serious points deduction. I think this investment is coming from his heart and not his head, which given our current predicament is rather honourable IMHO.

2-0 Saga brace.

Won't happen. We're bad, but we're not that bad. 2-0 to us will be the final score.

He left when he was 19 for the big money and bright lights of the Premiership, so find it slightly rich that he thinks he missed out on the "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up". He chose to leave. At the time he complained that he wasn't getting any first team experience here, so did he move to Man City for the first team experience, yeah right he did. He moved for the money, end of. He was 18 when we were in the top flight, so was he expecting to be playing then???? Then as a 19 year old (in the first half of that first season down), he was kept out of the first team by Higgy, Claus, Powell, Svennson and I think Hajto, and although a couple of these weren't that hot, I think they were better placed than a 19 year old Matt Mills. He could have signed a new contract and stayed around to fight for a place, but he left as soon as City waved some dosh at him. Nothing wrong with that, that's the way football is, but his exit has to be put in context.

If we've been cannon fodder, then I feel sorry for the other 77 teams that, on average, have finsihed below us over the last 40 years. From 1965 to 2005 which would probably cover the vast majority of posters on this board, our average league position was 15th. That means that 77 teams have performed worse than us over a sustained period. What's the next terminology for teams below cannon fodder? It's all relative and whilst we may have struggled at times in the top flight during that period, many teams would have given their proverbial right arms to swap with us. 15th out of 92 doesn't win you many medals, but I think it's far from cannon fodder.