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Look in the score book, we got three points, don't give a fccukc how we got them, but we got them nonetheless.

That'll do nicely 2 late goals from Charlton would help as well

Some good late subs and Davies making a meal of a knock.

Deffo our day, theyve had a very good penatly appeal turned down keep the faith

Absolutely, Davies has kept us in it, they have missed some sitters, yet we're winning. I don't give a monkeys how we win, as long as we do.

A atd desperate methinks. We'll be alright here, Barnsley arent prolific scorers

As it stands we claw a point back on Norwich, Watford & Donny. But Forest winning means we are now two points (although realistically three points cos of GD) adrift of safety. A draw to day is Ok as long as we win against Donny, a win to day would be very valuable.

Armstrong saying Scheiderlin not really been in the game. The longer the game goes n the more confident I'm getting

theyve missed a sitter

Still 23rd, but pulled a point back on Watford, Norwich and Donny. Charlton v Forest still level.

Davies James Perry Size Molyneux BWP Surman Spider Holmes DMG Saga Doesn't look that bad a side (although Molyneux and Ronnie untried and useen). Only concern would be that they havent all played together, but on paper a pretty strong team. 2-1 win

six changes: Ronnie Size molyneux Spider Saga Apparently all in.

Solent are saying two full debuts dues. Molyneux and Ronnie Size

Have us down for 4 or 5 points from next three games and have this one as a draw, but can see us sneaking it today. Donny off so can leapfrog them, Norwich away to Sheff Utd so could catch them up, Watford already lost so can close gap. The only bugger is Charlton at home to Forest. What's the best result here?? I think draw, then Charlton win, then Forest win.

No they have been sent to Aalborg by mistake.

hth

I think there's many things to feel ashamed of regards Jan;) but have to say his command of the English languae isn't one of them!!!! Of course he gets the odd word wrong (make a goal rather get a goal, and the like) but overall I think his English isn't that bad. Sometimes I struggle to work out exactly what he means, but I don't think you should be ashamed because of it!

All IMHO of course and pieced together from various snippets I have read and heard.

A taxi driver mate of mine picked Poortvliet up from Heathrow this morning 09:00, Terminal 3 , Flight EA003, Emirates from Dubai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought he was winding me up, cos couldn't believe he would be out of the country the night before a big game.

Because there's no way we would have paid all of that upfront (with some even being linked on contingent events, appearances etc). IMHO Schneiderlin was bought more as an asset to be traded in a year or so as opposed to making a contribution to the long term success of the team (altough of course any dosh received would help the team as well as his contributions whilst he is here). Some may be able to see the logic in such an enterprise (if this is indeed the case), whilst others may think the idea of buying players the manager hasn't seen (and may not want) as a future investment as being a dangerous road to go down. Personally, I'm not overly comfortable with other people at the Club speculating on players (however honourable the intent is). And although we haven't paid all the money for Schneiderlin, when you combine this with the other loans & frees (and associated costs), it demonstrates that we did have some money (albeit relatively small) that we could trade with and that many think we haven't used those scarce resources very efficiently.

Because that's what your football team is all about. One game/month/season things can be brilliant and you're shouting from the rooftops and dancing in the street (or kitchen), the next minute you're down in the depths of despondency. You win games you're not supposed to win and you lose games you never should have. Football is an emotional game, a game where everyone's personal opinion is right (except yours when it comes to thinking DMG will score if he gets the service!!!). Winning spreads confidence, success breeds success, whereas losing fills people with despondency and you get to thinking where the next win will come from. But supporters are the eternal optimists despite their sometimes negative/realistic ourbursts which are always heartfelt. We always believe that despite being in the shi77yt at any particular point in time, there is always a that chance we could win the next game, turn this all around next month, start afresh next season, get a new manager in and go storming up the league. Being despondent, ****sed off, negative, realistic is as much a part of being a football supporter as being overyoyed, surprised, ecstatic and optimistic. Being exposed to all those emoitions and sharing them with others is what being a football supporter is all about and sometimes you have to experience the worst just to be able to appreciate the best. It all just depends where today sits in the lifetime existence of your Club.

I'm not really sure I agree with that (because that's nto how I personally see it anyway). I think most fans accept where we are, of course they would like to see us somehwere else, and they accept that within reason we cannot spend what we haven't got. So what I think most fans are ****ed off with is the appointment, tactics and leadership of a poor manager, some very poor purchases and loans, the lack of empathy and communication from the Club and the underperformance of the talent we have at our disposal. Whilst lack of finance sets the context we have to work in, all of the above could be changed without any real influx of cash. In summary, I don't think thee problem is with what little we have got, it's how poorly we have done we with it. I agree. I think the idea of locally owned, supported clubs is something we would all like the idea of, but the problem comes when you look at the wider picture and see that it would be a fairly futile exercise for many clubs given the market they operate in. For some clubs it has worked out of necessity, others through choice, but for it to have spread it would require is a wholsale change in attitude throughout the game.

Talk about defending the in defensible:rolleyes: We weren't the first to play at their new stadium (it had been opened a year before we got near it). I bet they've been handing out copies of that train to every team who has played there siince it opened. I think the whole thing is rather petty, McMenemy is milking it for reasons in addition to his ego being affronted, but your post is just so out of touch it's unbelievable. As for Cork, we should have done whatever we could to have kept him, but he is now history. The only thing worth mentioning about last night is that a potential relegation candidate failed to pull away from us.

I have to agree that it is probably not the forum it once was, but I think it still does carry a certain degree of gravitas. I have certainly heard that some of those in and outside of SMS have referred to it recently (scary really, in a way)!!!! As for PR plants, I think that accusation will sadly always be with us now, following the charade a couple of years back. Looking back you have to admire those who did some digging to find out that Lowe was actually paying people to post on here!!!!!! Thanks to the PR Office's poor attempts at subtefuge, there will always be shouts of PR plant. Once again I have to agree, but think we also have to accept that this type of vitriol isn't just restricted to some in the anti Lowe camp. There have also been numerous vitriolic attacks on Wilde, Crouch, McMenemy et al. Additionally some of the more sycophantic pro Lowe posts, (which if they don't come from PR plants!!), often do the exact opposite of what their authors intended (unless of course there is some reverse psychology in play, as I'm sure Scooby & some others were actually anti Lowe!!).

4 or 5 points for me. Not enough to get us out of the mire, but enough not to see us left behind. These promises by Jan never really mean anything.