Weston Super Saint

I'm gonna bet you've just made that up...

Apparently, if you say stuff like this, it's only because she's a lesbian - true story that's been trotted out numerous times on this thread.

Sorry, is this no longer the thread where random shit that happens around the world is blamed on Brexit? I remember very clearly the passionate campaigning that if you voted Leave then something something something petrol stations closed in 2021.

Fucking Brexit. #sunnyuplands https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-58743364

Unless you're another one of boriersaint's multiple accounts, I've never said you've moaned about it. I'm glad you appear to be happy with how Brexit is turning out.

Prime ministers can be removed if they become unpopular. They can even be replaced by ones that want to rejoin the EU, especially given the overwhelming number of people who apparently want the same. Seems a bit defeatist to not even bother getting a rejoin campaign off the ground because Boris is PM.

'you lot'. Still, if you're that unhappy and there are so many people that want change, we should be seeing another referendum in what, maybe 12 months time?

That must explain why you never ever complain about anything to do with it

Ireland

How do you know what world I want? Suicide would be the best option for those that don't want to live here....

Why would the people who want to live in the UK want to fuck off to the EU? Surely it's more logical for those that spend their entire life moaning about the country to fuck off and live somewhere else?

Why not use your EU passport and fuck off to the EU then?

Fucking Brexit! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58641394 Would we have been allowed to do this under EU rules?

That's got to be fake news, surely? The guy's a nutter, but surely he would use the lift? (Apparently they have three in the white House). Maybe explains why he was so incompetent coming down the stairs of the plane...

Economies of scale (lesson two)

Fucking Brexit

I'll go with all of the above, including Brexit. After all, the UK penalises itself in terms of 'carbon tax' more severely since we left the EU than when we were in it. This drives up the cost of energy, especially if it wasn't generated using 'renewable' resources. Who runs this mysterious cartel that keeps the EU prices low (and why are they not all the same?)? Which specific element of the Brexit withdrawal agreement has contributed to the UK having higher prices than the EU since we left? Why do you have an unhealthy relationship with the 'day ahead' wholesale prices for electricity - it is effectively a stock market where prices can go up or down dependent on a number of factors (many of which I've mentioned previously). Surely the 'average' price over a length of time is more useful? I'm assuming you got your chart from this website which states (no data yet for 2021) : Meanwhile in good old blighty taken from this website : NB the average for the UK for 2020 was 19.5p/kWh. Apart from your 'day ahead' chart that you've posted a couple of times, how do you reach the conclusion that we are paying more for our electricity than Germany since we left the EU?

Are we back to discussing Electricity prices or are we still conflating gas and electric? If we're back to Electricity, as I've already mentioned there are a combination of issues : 1. Wind power - it hasn't been very windy so the entire North Sea wind farm has been unproductive. 2. Nuclear - we don't produce much by this method, and we import some from France (who add a bit of bunce on top of what they sell it to us for and who could blame them!). 3. Solar - yep, we've invested in solar farms to provide our electricity supply, in the UK, madness! 4. Coal - we've shut down most of our coal power plants. All of these thigs (as well as a fire on the line that we use to import electricity from France), has led to a shortage of supply. When the demand outstrips supply, prices go up, it's simple economics which some might term 'profiteering'. In order to try and boost our supply, we have used gas in the gas fired power stations to produce more electricity. The price of gas is very high due to global demands which means the price of the electricity that is produced using it has risen. You cannot 'simply' compare the cost of our electricity with the EU and blame Brexit for it! For example, France has a very high reliance on nuclear power so it hasn't suffered quite as badly (although it is expecting price rises). Germany has a similar power supply network to us and has focussed on 'renewables' but has suffered in much the same way as us when it comes to rising prices.

Yep. Otherwise there would be a breach of contract claim....

Fucking Brexit! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58627325 Obviously this is 100% the fault of Brexit! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58615784

Get over it, you lost, we left.

So just to be clear, there is some mythical 'cartel' operating in the EU ensuring that the prices are kept low? Bearing in mind that Snoriersaint's latest random tweet is referring to the price of gas and not electricity which we were previously discussing. Odd then that the EU is also suffering from 'soaring' gas (and electricity) prices, this marvellous EU cartel must be doing a pretty shit job at keeping prices low as claimed. https://www.ft.com/content/0fba039b-9e1a-413f-aa3a-7478d02ef3a5 Definitely got absolutely nothing to do with the Russians limiting the 'additional' supplies of gas and only fulfilling their contractual obligations, no sir, definitely not. It's definitely Brexit causing the prices to rise in the EU Bloody FT, what do they know about economics 101 eh?

https://news.sky.com/story/energy-crisis-how-long-will-it-last-and-what-happens-if-your-supplier-goes-bust-12412648

Except you've completely ignored economics 101; supply and demand! With the line supplying us from France catching fire, the amount of supply available diminishes. Lower supply whilst retaining the same level of demand = higher prices. If we had a week of 30+mph winds in the North sea our supply will increase and the prices decrease. That has nothing to do with Brexit.

Presumably then, the lack of wind powering our wind farms and the lack of sun powering our solar farms can only be attributed to Brexit. The fact that we ditched our own nuclear power strategy and have to rely on buying the excess capacity from the French must also be due to Brexit. I imagine the fire in the cable that supplies that electricity is due to Brexit as well. Add in the 'global' gas shortage and the curb in supplies from Russia and you have yet another Brexit reason driving the price of electricity upwards. https://www.independent.co.uk/business/energy-prices-france-uk-fire-b1921154.html I get that this is the thread which blames Brexit for any random events that happen that negatively impact the country, but the spot price of electricity on Friday being attributed to Brexit is a huge leap that I would expect snoriersaint to gobble up, but figured you would be one of the last people to fall for the rhetoric.