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The simple answer is 'no' you aren't right in thinking that! The long answer is : In our case, we went into admin after the cut off date - 3rd week in March? - and if we had survived relegation we would have had the points deduction applied that season. As we didn't survive we had the points deducted the following season. The only way Pompey can get points deducted next season is if they receive some for 'financial irregularities' or if the CVA fails - since that has another 4 years to be paid off, I guess they won't be getting any more! However, the likelihood of them surviving into next season without a buyer is nil. The likelihood of them getting a buyer is pretty close to nil, so I guess a points deduction next season is irrelevant!

I'm not sure I understand your attendance argument.... Are you suggesting that we had a better attendance than you during our relegation season? Or are you suggesting that you have the better attendance because you have less people going? Or are you suggesting that the attendances are exactly the same as 2,000 people at 23 home games (circa £920,000 @ £20 a pop), is actually meaningless thus we are the same? #confusedatcorps'sargument

Completely impractical though.... If you let pubs choose for themselves - they are a public place - this would leave the ban open for choosing for all other public places like libraries, cinemas, bowling alleys, offices etc etc. Far easier to govern and police if it is a straight ban in ALL public places.

Personally - as an Ex landlord with over 12 years running pubs / restaurants - I think a lot of you are over simplifying the argument! Running a pub / bar / restaurant is FECKING hard! Running a successful one is even harder! Smoking ban or not, doesn't really make a huge difference. IF a pub / restaurant is good and has a good reputation, driven by the manager / owner / licensee and his / her team, then people will come. Doesn't matter if there is smoking allowed or not. Conversely if the pub is poorly run, the staff don't want to be there and the manger isn't interested, then they won't! Sadly, a lot of these closures are down to people thinking that running a pub will be easy. All you have to do is get beer, sell beer, drink a little beer and count out lots of pennies in takings! It isn't that simple. Lots of factors at stake to determine success, not least would be rent / rates, beer ties etc, all determining how much money leaves through the back door once it has come in the front door. A lot of people really underestimate how these factors will influence their business when they take on a lease from a large company offering them untold riches and limitless pots of gold! Add to this 'drinking' habits that have changed and the price of alcohol from supermarkets and you get even more closures! My prediction : in a few years time, the traditional 'boozer' will no longer exist. They will be replaced by the nameless, faceless corporations like Wetherspoons who have enormous buying power and can afford to buy cheap and sell for tiny margins but with enormous throughput.

It's not the case. Chainrai holds a charge over the stadium - much like the bank/mortgage company holds a charge over your house - if the club goes kaput, Chainrai gets the stadium! The rest of the land is owned by Gady. Any potential new owner would have absolutely nothing to buy if the club were liquidated. Well, maybe a shredder or two, but who would want those as they're very well worn now!

What the stupid thick skates keep forgetting is that when they announced the grand plans for the toilet bowl stadium, they announced at the same time that they would be building 750 houses on the flatten park site to fund it...... How exactly did they think they would be able to build these houses? Oh that's right, if the football club isn't there, then they WILL get planning permission to build houses. So, chinny and buddy gady own the stadium [sic] and all the land around it. Enough land to build 750 houses apparently..... When chinny says he is secured and WILL get his money back, he seems to be forgetting the 'and then some!!!' bit, with a big grin on his face and a new gold chain In other news, it seems like the pressure is mounting over at corpse towers

I believe so. I believe it is more a formality today though, to re-assure the courts that they DO have the cash to last until the end of the season - which I believe they just about have now. However, I expect TB to announce that should they not find a buyer between now and the end of the season, they will HAVE to liquidate as soon as the season is done - still nothing new there.....

To be fair, I think the FA are more interested in finding out who threw the coin, so they can make sure he gets his change!

Lock stock.

Don't think so.... There would be two payments left - March and April. So that means January and February would have been with held. I'm guessing that the FL stopped the payment when they announced they were applying for admin - was that beginning of January? All seems straight forward to me, but I guess the lack of goals from the skates has led them to celebrate anything with a positive spin - look out for more celebrations at the end of the week as the post man brings a letter which could possibly have some good news in it.....

Do Carrefour not do home deliveries, like Asda, Tescos, Sainsbury's etc etc do in the UK?

There's hope yet I've been happily living in sin with Mrs WSS for over 12 years now! We met in Blackpool when I was 26. I got the 'young, free and single' years out of the way before we met and got all that out of my system. We now live a reasonably quiet life with our two kids in our own house, having recently moved back to Bristol after living above pubs for 6 years! The only thing left to sort out is me getting a better - and better paid - job, that I'll actually enjoy doing. Still, this could become reality as I have a final interview on Friday If all goes to plan, then life will become just about perfect. Oh, and no plans for a midlife crisis and I'm more than within the crisis age range

Sadly, even if they did have the prints on file, they wouldn't have been able to do anything about it! A hand print on the top - outside - of the car can be explained away quite easily by any half competent lawyer, and a conviction would never be handed out

Has it ever been said that the figures just don't seem to add up? They took about £30m back in a very quick time, but £60m was paid to the banks, despite them only owing about £40m! Does anyone down there actually know where the wonga went?

One for me, one for tal, one for AA. One for me, one for tal, one for AA. Oi, nipper, you got any more or do I need to 'butt your old man?

I'm beginning to warm to MattyC. The more I read of his posts, the more I'm convinced he's a stripey on a wind up

Firstly, Mr B should read this thread! It was posted on here months ago that Gaydamak would get the first payments from the PP's. If he read this thread he might be a bit more clued up! Secondly, this makes things far more interesting! On the one hand Mr B states that the old CVA will not be honoured - like anyone ever believed the skates and honesty went hand in hand! - however, if by paying Gaydamak his instalment they will be deemed to have [finally] started making repayments on the CVA. Can they make payments to one party in the CVA and none of the others - rhetorical question as far as the skates are concerned I guess! Finally, @corpse. In answer to your question, this investigative genius is gonna put his head on the block and say 'no' you won't be bought, not this time, you've used up all your lucky heather now.

To be fair, we WERE pushed out of second place this weekend

The way I read it, HRMC are trying to get the football creditors rule changed so that ALL debts are EQUAL! This means the FL can still impose their 'all football debts must be paid in full rule' to receive the golden ticket, but by implication this will mean that ALL debts must also be paid in full as their will be no preferred creditor status. So, a CVA would have to state all debts 100% paid. Which would render administration as quite literally a pointless exercise.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, I honestly don't think groupon will be finishing above us

Perhaps Mr Birch should hire the Pompey evening news to be his new accountants? According to them, over 500 people stayed in after the game to 'occupy fortress fratton'. It's been a while since I did 'counting' at skool, but I make it about 100 people there. The photo is a little grainy so I could be wrong.... Perhaps the news are including the 400 part time staff still left at the club in their figures to bulk up the numbers?

Even funnier when you consider Mr Birch's announcement the other day that ALL announcements from the club to the fans will be made through the official club website I wonder if he still thinks the £2.5m in the bank can get them to the end of the season

Can you post said email? Would be nice to see what the editor has said about your comments. Especially since the news should technically be standing up for the whole 'freedom of speech' ideal.....

Makes me think the exact opposite! However, just goes to show how clueless that tool really is! According to him it would only need £500k to get to the end of the season! That is of course assuming the players defer the wages! However, according to the real administrator, shedding 30 full time and a bunch of other workers will SAVE £600k from the wage bill - even with the players deferring wages! Does AA really expect us to believe that he could run the club - a club that was LOSING over £1m EVERY MONTH!!! - for the paltry sum of circa £167k per month! A club that was previously racking up debts of £800k EVERY MONTH just in NI and Income tax, is going to reduce its overheads so drastically that its costs can be cut to £167k per month! His calculator must be in need of new batteries!

To be fair, that is an inspired move by TB! Make the sick, injured and b-anned players do some work for their cash and sit in the box office [sic] and sell tickets to the phew If only Android had thought of that, he could have done the job himself and pinged off a few autographs at the same time! Who knows, an autographed AA ticket stub could have fetched at least an extra 50p on Ebay. Every little counts