Dman

The game was over when they scored their 3rd before half time. We were on top because they took their foot off the gas.

Can we please stop blaming the CB's FFS. There's little they can do when they're being exposed time and time again. The problem is with the tactics leaving the midfield non-exisitant and full backs pushing up too high. We need to fuck off this 'inverted full back' bollox - he only does it because pep does - it's leaving us way too exposed and results are showing that.

Sat in the middle of the park, kept the ball moving (forwards), broke down anything we tried to play through the middle. Significantly better than Downes (and I'm a Downes fan). I don't think the tactics helped us today though.

He's been brilliant all season.

He's had what, 3 / 4 months now? We look like a bunch of players thrown together last night. The pressing is appaling, so so easy to play through. Noone seems to know where there team mate is and we have no real clue of how to break anyone down on the ball either. Seems like the tactics are "throw as many men forward, that's bound to get a goal". I watched Leicester today and could tell their plan - I've watched us all season and have no idea of how we aim to break sides down or score goals.

They don't - they were just coached half decent and had a plan - we made it easy for them by having no midfield whatsoever.

Remember when everyone laughed at Leicester siging Winks...Looool

Shite. Thought be looked alright pre-season in that deeper role, but it was because he had better players around him. Weak as piss, does little other than pass it 5 yards, shouldn't be starting but is a Martin fan boy, like Mannings

I'd be starting Holgate at RB next game.

You're joking? He's been absolutely fucking terrible all season.

Howe dind't have the on of he best squads in the leauge though, did he.

Why didn't smallbone bring him down? another really shit player just been rewarded a new contract

I said on the way back after the game, its like watching a sunday leauge side with no coaching trying to play out from the back. No real sense of direction, no plan, no confidence on the ball.

Some more spreadsheet bollox I expect. They wanted that bloke at Leicester, but he reected us - martin was second choice and a terrible one at that.

He's a terrible manager, his tactics are all over the place. He talks a good game but just tries to copy Pep. We marked man for man tonight and just left a big gaping whole for them to play into the striker then run off him. At no point did we try and plug it. The same mistakes week in week out and we have a very very strong playing squad who should not be shipping 3-4 goals a game. He wont change, so we need to if we have any asperation of going up (which I don't think we do tbh).

tdmickey

Player for player, in terms of ability, all 3 relegated sides are a cut above. That doesn't mean all 3 will finish first, second and third though. You always tend to get a side who work hard and play a system really well at the top. Last season Luton / Cov, this season looks to be someone like Ipswich.

Incredible we're seemingly getting a fee for him. I thought he was destined to be one of those who are loaned out every season until their contract ends. Who on earth signed off a new deal for him in the first place?

We're not getting another keeper. We're stuck with Baz at the very least until McCarthy leaves the club.

I can understand why he started, Che was likely expecting to not be here come Saturday and we've likely trained / prepped without him. I've absolutely no idea why he played him RW with AA through the middle. That made no sense at all. Especially against Clarke who was their best player, he offered little to no protection to the full backs at all. Its actually painful that Martin isn't learning that AA cannot play through the middle alone.

Player for player Leicester and Leeds have the strongest sides in the division, us probably 3rd.

I think that is the concern. We've been pretty lucky to win the games we have. Saturdays result has been coming, it could have been QPR if they had a bit more cutting edge. Out of possession we are dreadful, our pressing is ridiculously poor, we stupidly easy to play through and the full backs get too high up the pitch leaving CB's exposed. I really like Martin, I think he speaks well and is a great figure head for the club. However, I do think he's very limited as a manager though. I thought at the time of his appointment we wouldn't go up under him and 5 games in, I still think the same. It's probably for the best we don't to be completely honest. We'd see results like Saturday every single week in the PL playing in the way that we do.

If Larios is fit I'd start him. Probably the strongest side we'll play this season. I think they'll have too much for us. Bazunu KWP THB Bednerak Larios Downes Charles AA Sulamana Adams Fraser

He was really shite today and doesn't look match fit. I wont blame any of our CBs though - Martin's gungho system leaves them all way too exposed.

Is Gnoto still there? he's the game changer imo