Osvaldorama

Completely agree. If there was even the slightest positive to cling on to I would say that he deserves more time as we desperately need to stop chopping and changing. But he is fucking awful. Bad line ups, bad tactics, bad substitutions, bad motivator, bad excuses, bad style of football. I don’t think i can remember a worse saints team. Even Wotte’s saints would beat this Martin side. They would just sit back and catch us on the break, same as everyone else. Fucking pathetic management

What positives do you see that Martin has brought to the club so far? If you’re so positive that he just needs time and is a good manager, what are you basing that on? It’s all very well coming on calling people tools and acting like you know more than everyone else but what gives you this confidence?

Agree. Most championship teams would kill for the quality in our squad. That’s the first thing every single opposition fan says. Leicester and Leeds the only two with equal or better players. It’s all on the coaching. Absolute shit show. They have been coached to avoid running, creativity & common sense. They get outworked every game and as a wise man (Adkins) once said: ‘hard work beats talent, if talent doesn’t work hard’

Stop conceding so many goals We are bottom of the entire EFL and conceding 2.4 goals per game. Relegation form.

Just absurd & weird comments. Fan base was fully behind him and buzzing for a fresh start. St Mary’s and all the away games have been sell outs. It’s not the fans fault we are playing suicidal football and he’s coached us to be more open than Katie Price’s knickers. He isn’t playing to the team’s strengths at all; just blindly asking them to pass it backwards and sideways waiting for a team to counter. Sad to say but Leeds are going to absolutely batter us.

Doesn’t get much worse than today. Most worrying part is the noises coming from Martin that he still thinks we are playing OK. Player ratings from me: Bazunu - 6/10. Awful for the first goal. Good apart from that. But imo the first should be a bread and butter save for a top level keeper. But generally OK apart from that and kept the score down Kwp - 7/10. Ran his socks off on both sides. Probably the only player that deserves praise THB - 5/10. Harsh pen imo. Understand why it was given, but I think the striker dived. Think he looks like he has a lot of potential but still raw with his passing ‘Janny B’ - 5/10. Shit, really. But thrown to the wolves as usual. Made some outstanding blocks. Made some horrific passes. Not the biggest problem today, but still fairly poor. Holgate - 4/10. Awful mistake for the goal.. but up until that I honestly thought he was doing OK. Trying to make things happen playing balls forward. I don’t think Manning offered anything more, which shows how fucked we are. Charles - 5/10. We look better with him in DM. Unfortunately he’s a young kid who is raw so his passing and awareness catches him out. Criminal squad management because we are heavily relying on him already Smallbone - 3/10. Awful. Shocking performance. 2 yards behind play all day. Couldn’t tackle, pass, cross or shoot Downes - 3/10. Really expecting big things from him.. unfortunately expectations sometimes don’t match reality. Awful today Fraser - ?/10. Was he on the pitch? He looked quick as he ran down the wing once. Did absolutely fuck all else Adam A - 2/10. Scored the nice goal which doubled his points here. Apart from that he’s an absolutely woeful footballer. Can’t stand to watch him. He’s like an even shitter, smaller Shane long. Che - 3/10. Great assist. Did fuck all else. Did he even touch the ball again? Not all his fault though as he has no service thanks to #Russball Subs: all get 1/10. Apart from stu who gets a 3/10. All of them were dreadful, especially Sulemana who looks like a massive waste of money IMO. manager: 0/10. Fuck off. Suicide football. Zero attacking intent. Zero things to be positive about.

Sports republic are the worst thing to happen to Southampton since hitler.

This is horrific. I am speechless… again. Truly a shambles. Would our championship relegation team beat this team? I think there was more fight there

Starting him in a central midfield role with smallbone & Adam Armstrong is a sackable offence on its own imo. Just totally ridiculous management

As the old saying goes; ‘there’s a fine line between brave and stupid’. These owners and management wouldn’t want to be be seen to be doing anything too obvious - like defending. We are much too brave for that. Personally I don’t think ignoring the strengths of your squad by playing strikers in midfield and midfielders in defence is brave. I don’t think losing every single aerial duel or giving the ball away from your own set pieces is brave. I don’t think passing your team mates into trouble on the edge of your own box is brave. I think it’s fucking stupid. But what do I know? I’m only a fan.

Positives: we have enough points to not be in the relegation zone even when we lose tomorrow Negatives: we have a manager that thinks a suitable midfield 3 is Smallbone, Aribo, Adam Armstrong

Neil warnock has a decent record of keeping teams up in the championship... Honestly as above,I never thought I’d say it but I would take someone like him or allardyce now. I just want common sense and basic defensive awareness drilled back into the team. When we went up before, that’s all we did. Pardew did the basics well, Adkins added some attaking impetus and then poch etc. added flair and built on the solid foundations. Right now it feels like we are trying to run before we can even walk. We lose every aerial duel, we can’t pass five yards, we concede from ever corner. Lots of work to be done whether we stick or twist. (I assume we will stick for a long time yet)

It is truly unbelievable how dumb everyone at Southampton FC are. About 80% of fans knew Nathan Jones was an awful appointment. About 90% of fans knew RM wasn’t the right appointment. 100% of fans knew the line up against Ipswich would end in defeat. Yet they are all so busy wanking each other off at their own brilliance they forget that real life is different from statistics. They do not value experience, character or the physical aspects of the game whatsoever so all the metrics that they use for scouting and recruitment are completely flawed. They see who has good pass completion and possession stats and sign them whatever the cost. Fucking ludicrous way to run a football club. The only saving grace i have is knowing they’ve pissed all their own money up the wall. Cheers for destroying the club you absolute clusterfuck of bell ends.

So have we……..

On current form I’m more worried about exiting the league the bottom end than the top end.

You’re totally missing the obvious. Yes Che missed one chance. But the ridiculous system he’s playing in only created one chance for him. No striker has 100% shooting accuracy. If your “managers” system only creates one chance per game whilst simultaneously offering the opposition countless free shots on your goal… the problem is not the striker.

We sold most of the promotion quality players & spine of the team and appointed a total charlatan. Like everyone else I am speechless with rage. I hate everything about the club at the moment. Driving back stuck in traffic I was wondering why the fuck I bother. They can’t even do the very basics. Naive, clueless, abysmal, pathetic, gutless. For Martin to say there was nothing wrong tactically when he played our best DM at centre half and a midfield 3 of Aribo, adama and smallbone… it’s honestly beyond a joke. He can fuck off and so can the club. Utter fucking cunts. Embarrassing from top to bottom.

Adams Fraser Alcaraz Edozie Charles Downes manning THB Bednarek Kwp Baz 4-0 saints E I E I E I O

Problem is we let our best attacking player go. Tella was our best/most productive attacker and the reason we looked dangerous the first couple of games. I still think it was an awful decision to cash in on him personally. He was so productive and worked very hard defensively. I like Fraser, at least he can actually cross the ball, I think he will come good. Edozie I worry about the physical & defensive side but he’s looked OK going forward so far.

Or he could have learned some lessons and we could put in a good performance. Some of the criticism is way OTT already. He’s not even had 10 league games. I think it was an OK press conference. He’s not going anywhere for a while, there’s no way SR will pull the trigger. So may as well back him and be positive for now

Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was a huge mistake to begin with. Imo we needed someone more pragmatic and with experience in this league to get us organised again. But now he’s here… surely we can’t sack him already? But tbh if we concede 4 again I don’t see how we can keep persisting with suicide football. Massive conundrum right now that can only be solved by a good performance on Tues

I still think it’s too early for a change. He is trying to change the style of play completely and it will have teething problems. He hasn’t had much time with the full squad in training. Sacking the manager means yet another reset, change of playing style and to be honest makes us look like even more like a total basket case to any potential incoming managers & players. Plus as someone pointed out, every appointment that SR make gets worse and worse 😂 But he HAS to make us more solid on Tuesday. If we concede 4+ goals again his position is starting to look more and more untenable as this squad should be doing much better.

This infuriated me more than it should. I swear only saints could buy a 6ft 7 target man and try and use him as a defensive pressing forward. We are literally run by muppets. I am so sick of the whole club at the moment. Just do the fucking basics ffs

In fairness it has been very few games. I am one that has been defending him because he seems like a great man manager and he managed to stamp some sort of an identity on the team in a very short space of time. I thought the Sunderland game may have just been a blip. But unfortunately it has continued & the last 2 games have been a catastrophe. The team is doing many things that no professional football team should ever do. I genuinely can’t believe how bad we are. The worry comes in his post match comments where he praised the team. That was totally delusional. I don’t know where we go from here. Essentially we have to be more solid on Tuesday. I dont even want to contemplate shipping 4+ goals again.

I am so sorry to read this. Best wishes to you, your wife and your family.