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Thanks. 1804 return from New Street would be feasible, if not a few beers in Brum until 1904 then !

This will be my first visit to Hawthorns, originally planning to drive but giving a thought to getting train from Winchester as its direct to New Street .Has anyone ever taken the Metro from New Street to the ground ?According to the away ground guide it takes about 25 minutes.

Just bought my 3 not a great deal left in the first 4 blocks. We are right at the back of A2.

To be fair they are only questioning his attempt to discuss the offside with the 4th official not the actual decision.

LOL -I don't know but relatively recently I think .I do a bit of youth coaching and refereeing ( qualified coach -not ref) and that's how I understand by my own reading of the rules .Also for volunteer refs Hants FA do evening classes and seminars for those that haven't got time or inclination to do full referee course .This scenario came up in one of our sessions and that's how we were briefed to deal with it, because that's the rules. It seems unfair and harsh and very difficult to get right, but ultimately the ref was correct yesterday ( according to my understanding and Hants FA's Referee Development Officer !).Happy to be told otherwise if someone knows better but I'm sure what I've said is correct.

Basically yes-however the interpretation relies on whether the defender has deliberately attempted to play the ball or its deflected off him. The former he's onside the latter he's off, I cant remember the exact wording but that's basically the gist of it. In this case Lovren definitely attempted to play the ball, he made a mess of it but that doesn't matter. ie if he'd let it go Kane , would have been off. Obviously Lovren doesn't know he's off so has to play it, you could therefore say Kane's got an advantage from being off side therefore he should be flagged but that doesn't matter under the current law as soon as Lovren's swung his boot and connected Kane is onside.

Thanks Pal. Good to know you are an expert , even though I was replying to Alpine's query and trying to add some clarification for those in doubt ( not you obviously). Brilliant idea to have a debate on the illogical laws of the game and the ramifications when the assistant referee prematurely and incorrectly raise their flags and the consequences there of, the scope is limitless. I'll sit it out but you carry on.

Correct he's not offside-anyone who doesn't understand this go and read the laws of the game. Lovren makes an attempt to play the ball and does play the ball therefore Kane is not offside as the ball has been played by a defender. Where Kane was standing when Ali plays the ball becomes completely irrelevant in this situation as Kane didn't not become involved until after Lovren's touch. He is 100% onside there is no scope for argument or debate is as straightforward as a ball crossing a line . If Lovren doesn't attempt to play the ball he is however, off side ,but that's not what happened.

Met him several times, a really good guy. Hope his replacement is as good. Interesting to see where he ends up as he’s staying in football.

GTFI

I want MP to go but points are all that matter now.

That’s certainly a possibility.Be good if he explained why he thinks we should keep him. I’m ready to be convinced, 4 league wins all season,in the relegation zone, lowest win % of any Saints manager ( read that on here so not sure if it’s 100% accurate) , no league win since November etc

That’s makes me feel a bit sad. I’m sure it’s not the case but it looks like he cares more about his relationship with The Club rather than The Club itself.

I would have thought everyone taking their seats 10 minutes after kick off v Liverpool would be a visually effective protest. Not sure I think a match day protest is a great idea but this would be straightforward enough to arrange and would have more of a chance in being noticed than something on twitter.

Me too. It was ML or Mickey Fialka , we as fans did very well out of it. She has made a fortune , good for her. PS Not only league 1 but also on minus 10 points.

Leicester but if I'd bottled that then after Palace at the latest. Be good if this site and The Echo ran a stay /go poll. A headline of 90+% of Saints Fan want MP to go, might be the nudge the Board need to act.

This sort of article has got to make the Board/Owner squirm . Especially when they are used to seeing far more positive pieces from the likes of Sky.

Fair enough.

So he’s never scored a goal in 43 appearances off the bench ?

There is nothing that gives me hope in that article, good to get a signing obviously, but if they really still believe that guff that we were ****e cos VVD made us ****e there really is no hope. Obviously we are not getting a centre back then.

I’ve been a fan of Les and co and don’t subscribe to the usual vitriol that fills these pages. However we are looking rudderless and rather deluded at boardroom level. There is a worrying lack of leadership in all areas of the club.

I think you are spot on. Its probably based on this article which in turn is based on Griffit's tweets and other tweets by random Saints fans. https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/southampton/southampton-fans-think-they-are-signing-mario-balotelli-after-he-misses-nice-game

That doesn’t make much sense.They are hardly similar players so the purchase of one shouldn’t preclude the other.

Jeez you are touchy. I don’t know who is being talked about if I did, I’d either post it or keep it to myself but not post,that I know something along the lines of -I know something but I’m not telling. As well as being touchy you are obviously a bit thick.I said hundreds of people would know ,not everyone in the world. Iif hundreds know, from security to catering to some members of the public it is highly unlikely to blow the source.If however upsetting the source is the reason for not indentifying the player in the first place then why put anything on a supporters forum?

Since he was at the Huddersfield game he would have been seen by hundreds of people, so hardly protecting a source if a player has been in a very public place.