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I didn't see the game last night - was it really that bad? Seemed to be a bit of a fitness builder for some, and back-up players. Saw the Downs miss, although it was a really shit pass into him. I remember being at Millwall away and Sheffield Utd away in the Cups, where our fans were so down on both Pelle and Mane! Hopefully it will just be another one of those situations.

That what has had a negative impact? What Labour policies are you bemoaning?

Do you understand how wealth works? And no I don't, for both questions, but I don't think it's changed much. A lot of people left post Brexit, for obvious reasons.

Hmmm, your post above says it is mostly income tax reasons. When you say they are in Finance and Insurance, are these salaried individuals, because previously you said they were business and asset owners. Secondly, what age are these people? Unless they are very old (so probably not salaried) if they were bothered about IHT they could start putting their money in trusts and transferring across to their kids. You are clearly making it up as you go along - this is way beyond an "agree to disagree" stance. Some high salaried individuals are moving to Dubai, but they have been for 20 years. That's not due to any tax laws, it's purely down to greed. Would you prefer to pay 45% tax on your salary, or 0%. It's that simple. Please note the 45% rate has been around since 2013.

Absolutely, but again that was put in place by the Tories until 2026. His whole argument was based on loads of his multi-millionaire business owner mates from "real estate" moving to Dubai due to Labour policies.

Oh, and one last thing @Sir Ralph, which Labour policy has increased income tax in this country? Income tax hasn't been changed since 2013...

And herein lies the issue Ralph...the profile of these people don't pay income tax, and do not have pensions. These are not salaried individuals. You said they are investors and have businesses and assets in the UK - the thought that these people would be paid through income tax is laughable. I don't pay income tax, and although I have some money, I'm not on the scale of these people. The fact that you also think that multi-millionaires would divulge their tax arrangements to a lay person like yourself, just cos you asked them, is very, very funny. Tax arrangements for the wealthy are incredibly complex, and a lot tend not be ethical so they would not share that. In addition to this, you falling into my income tax trap just shows how little you know about millionaires and tax. So when you say income tax, what are they paying income tax on? What income tax were they paying in the UK that they're not paying now in Dubai?

Je suis Christophe

CB is really happy about it as well.

He's leaving us, not signing for us.

I have no narrative, so please do. I will await your answer. Moving to Dubai is good for some people, but not the profile of people that you are talking about (that's why I have been challenging), but it will be interesting to see what they say.

Please can you ask, as very interested. When you say future investments and Labour policy, which Labour policies are pushing them abroad?

Question for both @Sir Ralph and @east-stand-nic, as Sir Ralph said he couldn't answer this the other day (even though they are his millionaire acquaintance's) What would be the tax advantage for someone who's assets and businesses are UK based, to move to Dubai? On what taxes are they saving money? I just want to see if either of you have an understanding of how it all works.

Will listen to this later, but have met Jeremy quite a few times. I'm going to hate myself a little bit for this, but he is actually a very affable, generous and dare I say it, good person.

"Not my words Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine".

Ok. What's your point? If you were comparing them to Just Stop Oil protestors I'd agree... It's like comparing ABH with Speeding, they're completely different misdemeanours.

Slightly irrelevant - she's inciting violence, civil disobedience, vandalism and potentially death to a number of people. In any society that has to be punished.

I wouldn't say putting someone in prison who was inciting people to burn down a hotel as ludicrous.

That's some mental gymnastics to be able to compare the two of them, congrats.

That's irrelevant - Edwards not trying to make an effort to get the ball is a red card. It doesn't matter where Stephens was.

Yeah, the writing styles, poor spelling and grammar, inability to answer questions, crying after getting insulted and then throwing around insults. It all makes sense. I also think both are joke characters - I don't think either can actually be serious.

By the way, was very interested in what was said by Still about Stephens and the fact that he is clearly such a good guy to be around and massively respected in the dressing room. It does explain why all our Managers for the last few years have continued to have him in and around the first team squad. Also interesting to hear that he is aware of the criticism that he has got in the past. From a purely human level, it really must take some fortitude to overcome that.

Cam Archer plays off the last man. In a situation like yesterday when we were camped in their half, he's literally there for knock-downs and rebounds. That's why he didn't touch the ball much. Downs just wasn't found with any crosses.

I think if we ignore him he might just go away...I'm surprised he's still here in all honesty as he's thoroughly embarrassed himself. If I were him I'd take the loss and go back to enjoying his "holiday".