Farmer Saint

We had a spine of Fonte, Schneiderlin, Lallana and Lambert. We were 10 times better than we are now.

I know it won't that's my point. As I said repeatedly last season and this Summer, we are not in the correct financial position to be promoted. We're fucked financially and we needed to start again otherwise we will get stuck in a cycle of yoyoing and will never get out of it.

And that's what we're working with in this country. Be warned - this is the type of person a lot of people are aligning themselves to.

The issue is not the process, the issue is the rules that have been presided over by the Tories for the last 14 years. And yes, if there is a legal way to apply for asylum from overseas, that reduces the boats hugely as applications can be done from outside the country (currently you can only apply for asylum from inside the UK - hence the boats).

But we haven't lost KWP yet, and if/when we do are likely to sign an upgrade in midfield. So if we looked at the squad now, and who we have, I think we are slightly stronger than last year.

Yes, how have we not?

Listen to this...

Completely agree. It's so odd that Martin got so much shit last season because we had a Premier League squad and should be absolutely storming the Championship, and yet this year when we have strengthened we now have a Championship quality squad that will definitely get relegated.

We're not, it's why FFP was put in place and people like Cortese were SO against it.

And herein lies the issue - people make stuff up to support their opinions, rather than deal in facts. @SaintsLoyalis just another in a long line of peddlers of misinformation.

That's because the media peddled the video of him being violently kicked in the head. With 2 police officers being investigated the police have got to be very careful as evidence can be omitted and criminal cases can be lost. This will also go to CC and be heard in front of a jury so it takes time to put cases like that together. This is not some white scumbags pleading guilty to ransacking a shop.

I said I'd come back to you on this, so... No go areas isn't a thing, this isn't Jo'burg. Some ethnicities may not want to go to some areas as they feel threatened, but that's the same for same British Asians going to parts of Leeds, Birmingham and the East end of London. Integration is difficult - but most educated people try to find a way to do it. The issues you're talking about have built up over generations, so many of the people in these areas are British now. I'd be interested to see howany people think they can't integrate due to the colour of their skin/background, or can't due to lack of opportunity. People also have their own ways of living, borne through years of tradition. Why by being here do they have to live the way an English person lives? Why can't they live according to their heritage as long as its not breaking any laws of the land? If people are allowed into the country, the infrastructure should already be there. We should be proactive instead of reactive. And you say uncontrolled immigration - since Brexit we have controlled immigration do we not? But why are we comparing ourselves to countries where gay people are executed, women are treated as 3rd class citizens and people are scared into living a certain way. Why aren't we comparing ourselves to other, similar first world countries? You know you have to do that here, don't you, as an immigrant and going through the immigration process. If you're an asylum seeker that is different, as you are fleeing war, persecution etc (probably from similar countries you see to hold as the benchmark of how the UK should be). I'm not interested in the UK becoming an authoritarian, non-inclusive state, sorry. I really don't see it as the utopia you seem to think it is.

Have to agree to disagree I that one then - never seen or heard any evidence of it on anything but right wing nut job sites.

Because two tier policing doesn't exist.

Illegal immigrants don't stay though. They are asylum seekers until they are processed and either accepted or rejected - this is a very stringent process now. However, about 70-80% are accepted as genuine asylum seekers. Those that are rejected are returned to country of origin (illegal immigrants are deported). The reason asylum seekers have been building up so much is due to the following reasons. 1. The removal by the Tories of a legal way to apply for asylum - this used to be done online, but this was shut down to increase the boat crossings. At the moment there is no legal way to apply for asylum from outside the UK, which is fucking mental. 2. Tories making huge cuts to the department that processes the applications as a way to build up the number of AS that have to be housed in the UK, and to build up hatred in the hope it would keep them in power. However, they didn't reckon on the BNP, sorry, Reform coming back in such a strong guise. To solve this we need to re-open the legal routes to apply for asylum, and decrease the backlog, freeing up the accommodation and thus the money being spent.

See now Hypo, THAT is funny.

See, it's not easy, which is why when the pictures are shown there are players that it is meant for.

There is a lot to unpack in that post @east-stand-nic, but am in holiday and need time to go through it. What I would say is though, why would we want our treatment of foreigners to be on a par with those countries you mentioned? Are we not better than that as a tolerant society?

I actually agree with you here. He may be useful in some scenarios.

I'm just hoping he finds those posts, as I'm not sure he can come back from another set of lies.

This is a weird one. I want misinformation to be stopped - it's one of the main reasons we have had morons running amok and also the targets of the attacks. We have to stop idiots having access to this information as they can't process that it may not be correct. But it also seems very authoritarian, which is worrying.

I'm really sorry, but I cannot find where I called you any of the above in the Israel thread. Please can you post them as I want to read what I said as I think you may have me confused with someone else.

No, funnily enough.

No, it means the transfer window hasn't shut yet and transfers don't just happen overnight, as I said in the previous post.

Jesus H Christ - that's fucking awful. All of mine are in 3 moves or less and actually name the player. Mine tends to be actual connections and word play, nothing as spurious as that. For instance, can you get to Alex Oxlade Chamberlain in 3 moves or less from those pictures?