Farmer Saint

All that proves is that Finland and Austria manage their economies far better than France, Italy and Belgium doesn't it? It doesn't prove causation at all. In fact, it proves the opposite, and shows that EU high tax economies tend to have a lower debt threshold: "The countries with the highest income tax rates include Ivory Coast (60%), Finland (56.95%), Japan (55.97%), Denmark (55.9%) and Austria (55%)."

2023 United States 36.28 France 56.99 Japan 41.16 United Kingdom 44.17 Sweden 47.49 Spain 45.31 Italy 53.8 South Africa 32.62 India 29.12 Above is percentage of GDP spent on public services. France's debt ratio is less than the US's. Japan is double that of France. Sweden's is half that of India and South Africa. If you put it in a table there is no link between public spending as a percentage of GDP, and national debt as a percentage of GDP. Sorry.

I've heard he's got some rich friends who live in Port Grimaud (because Monaco and St Tropez are just so passe) that moved from the UK because of Labours huge income tax increases and IHT burdens on their assets and businesses in the UK.

Does he live in Thailand? Blimey, only one reason old white English men go to Thailand 😬

I know my parents feel very bad about their generation and the world that they are leaving us (and our children).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yqgnzw759t Got a horrible feeling that Capitalism (well, Western Capitalism) is starting to fail...

Yeah, he's not a fan. Would take what he says with a pinch of salt.

Is it that Constantine bloke again?

Why?

I think "loads of money" is a bit of an exaggeration, and when you say cost the taxpayer money, do you mean from a wages POV?

I'm not sure many people were defending her, and we're actually saying they were waiting for the full story. I know I said immediately that she should go.

I think the difference is that she came into politics for the right reasons, to help people. I don't think you can say the same for a lot of the Tory party.

Shame, but she had to go. At the same time a lot of people were not keen on her, so think it may actually help the Labour party.

Unless what? They are different things entirely. She will either be charged with fraud, or nothing. Tax evasion is using illegal tax methods to gain a tax advantage. Tax avoidance is legally minimising your tax liability through legal tax loopholes. Fraud (in this situation) is wilful misrepresentation of information to gain financially.

But this isn't tax evasion. It's tax avoidance.

No, it's fraud.

All politicians are corrupt? Behave.

God this country and it's inhabitants are a bunch of cunts...I wish I could emigrate again. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOGPAkjCCZc/?igsh=MXg3eW9ubGdrdnhjNw==

Ha, he said anal. Twice.

Robinson looks very good, but there was (certainly initially) something about the way Dibling carried the ball that was exceptional. We'll see though.

To be fair, if her advisors have told her to do it this way, then she may well have been badly advised. If that is true, and she pays back the tax, that should be the end of it. If it is proved to be malicious, then she needs to resign. We all get badly advised, some of Sir Ralph's mates were told if they moved to Dubai they wouldn't be charged tax on assets and businesses owned in the UK, and that they wouldn't have to pay Inheritance Tax. I mean, it clearly happens to the best of us when it comes to professional advice.

Agreed, if you do something illegal, you go.

Yes, but can also be recovered by HMRC.

That's fine mate, you keep on making up stuff to suit your arguments. Not the first time you've been caught lying on here. Don't forget, I've got your number, as I'm sure a lot of others have too.