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This is the point I am making. If it was so deadly and serious as to lock everyone inside, why did they act like it was not serious and carry on as normal?

Now, lets use some logic here. Put aside tin foil hats etc., and just use logic. IF the government KNEW this virus was deadly, do you believe they would have acted like this?

Quite perfectly said mate. This is the problem with 80% of the people I meet and talk to. They refuse to accept they might be wrong. I am open to both sides. Matt and his like may have some very valid points that may come to be true. Just as likely, they might be totally wrong. Who knows. It's a bit like flat earth theory and moon hoax. I have a mate who is well into it and he shows me his evidence etc. But, as I say to him, I don't really care. If the earth is flat, will I avoid cancer? Will I pay less tax? What effect will it have on my life. Bugger all, so who cares. That said, in the case of Covid, I do care because if they have been unethical with the truth and people are dying because of it, they should be held to account. My guess is we will never know.

Cannot see that myself. We paid way more for Adam Armstrong and Tella has proven himself better. If SFC sell him for under 20m then they are fools. Going by the rate other championship players have gone for, he is worth 22-25m I think personally.

And their GK, Paul Cooper. Unlucky to have been born in an era of so many great keepers or he would have got a lot of England caps.

Indeed. I do not want to get involved in threads like this as people are too myopic. They are either this side or the other and cannot see anything in between. But the economy in Germany is indeed in a bad way. I suspect that is just the way of the world and COVID lock downs. So, why are people so convinced the UK is suffering ONLY because of Brexit. It beggars belief that people can be so blinded by their political persuasions as to simply shut their ears and eyes to other probabilities. Anyway, said my piece. Wont be getting involved further as some of the characters and abuse in this section of the forum goes way beyond reasonable human behavior.

3-1 Brighton today. The usual goal from Alcaraz or perhaps JWP. Other than that, similar pattern of meaningless possession football and terrible mistakes at the back.

With West Ham safe and on the beach before their Euro final, and Sam in the Leeds dugout, you have to hope Leeds can get a win there. Not that i care so much but it would be cool to see Everton drop as they say that may scupper the takeover they have going on.

No, not with the 3 managers we had. Steve Cooper is better than the three we had combined, that is why some of his players have performed and none of ours have. There is something dreadfully wrong behind the scenes at SFC and some of it coming out now. New team, manager, DOF need to get in there and stop the negativity and losing ways before any player can have a good season for us.

Jury out for me on this one. I can see the positives as aforementioned, but also the aforementioned negatives. However, he will be looking for a way back to make his name again, and I wonder if he is friends with Kompany and can get advice off him as and when needed. Being really negative, I hope this isn't out owners trying to be clever and thinking, well Burnley did well with a top ex player, so maybe we should do the same, assuming it will be OK.

Alcaraz for captain. Great player, seems to want to stay, so this might seal the deal for him. Plus he is South American and they are very passionate. Next season, build the team around him.

I suspect many Burnley fans said that at the end of last season. No reason to think we cannot bounce straight back up if we can keep some of these players and get a decent real football manager. For me, one of the biggest issues is that all our squad have had their abilities coached out of them. If we can get a positive manager and positive attitude back, confidence will grow and we can be great next season. AA scored pot loads in the championship and he can again, IF he is coached properly and can thus regain his confidence.

For starters he would not want to be here. He is a big time Charlie or so he thinks. He is not the sort of character that would do well at a club like this. I just cannot explain, but I know what I am trying to say. Mark my words, if he gets the job, he will fail here. Some times managers are suited to clubs. Sometimes they just aren't. I just hope it isn't going to be him. It won't work.

Brendan Rogers is not a Southampton Manager and I hope to hell we do not get him as he will not fit. Potter is much better for the long term goals and would be interested if we give him what he wants (not just money).

Massive game for Forest, not for us. Win and we are still down. The ship has long since sailed. Let's get ready for a promotion push and winning some games next season.

Pretty sure I read a few days ago that the club has already confirmed Selles will not be retained for next season. Can't find the article now, but certain I saw it.

I know, but as I said, in my lifetime supporting Saints. I was born after 1966.

I don't like to get involved in conversations about this sort of thing or politics as there are already too many people in the world with polarised and myopic views, incapable of even considering a different view. However, in Matt's case, I feel he makes a lot of valid points and cases. If you truly believe governments care and act in our best interests, you need to really open your eyes a little more. Remember, 99% of the media is controlled by the elite like the much hated Murdoch. People hate him, but they seem to believe everything his media channels spew out. Odd.

I know there are many nay-Sayers when it comes to our chances in the Championship, but with a decent, dare I say NORMAL manager who plays to squad strengths and plays attacking football, we already have a proven top drawer goal scorer at that level in Che Adams. All he needs is a good boss to get his confidence back and a playing style that suits him and he will bang in the goals. But here is my main positive slant on it all....A chance for us to actually win something! In my years supporting Saints we have been promoted from the second tier twice. Both times we were runners up when we should have damned well won the league. Time to put that right!! Let's come up as champions. Yes, I know it won't be easy....maybe it takes 2 or 3 years. But it is something tangible to aim for, whereas in the PL tangible is 14th. The top section of the table (top 6) is just impossible pretty much. I for one am really looking forward to a revisit to the second tier.

JWP is very divisive, but I genuinely believe we would be better off without him for many reasons.

Genuine questions. 1. For how many of you on this forum will this be your first relegation from the top flight? (Last time 2005) 2. How many of those of you over 50 knew we were down a few weeks/month or so back? It's quite interesting to know who are those that still believe; the oldies or the newerbies?

Saints, Forest & Leeds to go down.

Got to be honest, totally missed that. Who have we left for the CB partnership for this game? Salisu, I read is dropped with an attitude issue.

Impossible to call as we never know which Saints team will turn up. I cannot for the life of me understand why Selles is not giving McCarthy a run. Firstly, he has a lot more experience in big six pointers. Secondly, Bazunu probably need to be taken out of the firing line. I have a feeling even if we win we are still going down to be honest. But knowing Saints and this season it will be a draw. Why? Because Bournemouth know we need the points more than them and will come to park the bus and we all know we cannot break teams down. It's got 0-0 written all over it. So likely it will be 3-3 or similar. Just so unpredictable. McCarthy KWP Bednarek ABK Perraud S.Armstrong Lavia Djneppo Suleman Acaraz Adams To hell with defence.

I think I said it before on another thread, that if we get a decent proper football manager, we do have some very good championship level players. Both Che and Armstrong are proven at this level and I think their confidence would soon come back if they had a decent manager playing proper attacking football and they started banging in early goals. For defence and GK it really depends who leaves. I suspect Salisu and ABK would be gone, so yes, we would need better than the rest we have left. Would Banzunu be OK in the Champsionship? Not for me as it is a lot tougher with more direct styles of play. He would be flapping himself into orbit. All in all, I think with a a load of sales, some clear out and some decent defenders and GK we would be top 10 material, probably better. But the crucial part without doubt is manager and getting shot of the awful management in the club.