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Just seen the draw. Nothing less enthralling then drawing the bloody franchise. At least there will be plenty of seats in the away end.

Chains, Whips and Photographic evidence.

That sounds preferable. Could you run Sky Go through a Raspberry Pi or similar?

Doesn't that require £5 a month for multi-room to enable it?

It is scandalous. Signed.

I'm going to ditch it, saves me 50 pounds a month to go to freeview... It just cannot be justified anymore, plus I can use Dad's log in details to watch anything I want on my iPad/computer anyway!

If you want raw soundbites you are asking the right chap.

------------------- Lambert ---------------- Rodriguez ----------------------------- Mane ----..------------- S. Davis ...................... ........ Wanyama ........ Schneiderlin ...... Bertrand .. Fonte .. Alderweireld.. Clyne ------------------- Forster ------------------- Seems we are of a similar mind St Chalet.

Good man. Look forward to your perspective.

To talk to Brandan Rodgers/Pochettino?

Considering that the film focuses on the back and forth between Clooney and McElhone's characters does that surprise you? I couldn't get on with the first film because it was unfocused. This version of Solaris is slicker, very clearly a Steven Soderbergh feature, a film made for 2002, but still excellent in it's own right.

I was never able to get through the original. Didn't have that problem with the modern remake, which as far as I can tell thanks to my youth induced ADHD is faithful the the themes of the original and it's production. George Clooney does an exceptional job.

Solaris is on Syfy right now. Just wanted to share this information, love that film.

Now assume the opposite, that there will not be another crash (Not saying there will not be, just hypotheticals, as things can only be in this type of discussion) what is Labour's USP?

Away point and clean sheet to a side still carrying some promotional momentum while we are still not at full strength. My glass is half full.

If he can repeat Morgan's form from last year then we should be in a reasonable position.

My personal perspective (as someone who started cheering loudly and openly in Malta International Airport when I saw the Labour leadership result in September 2010...... It was clearly stupid at the time, both my understated reaction and the result) was that a focus on Union politics just highlights how marginalised Labour are becoming. Lost in themselves. So, is it simply natural for them to be a party of protest to try and moderate rather then be a party of power? That a parties most successful leader is a pariah is never going to be a positive or cement any credibility.

Critically now though, is that it 'was' the perceived establishment of the labour party. What is that now? Unfortunately (depending on your perspective) its the hundreds of thousands eligible to vote for the leadership. They are the Labour party..... Ed Milliband's party of the people.

New thinking. What do the Labour supporters here see as a viable future plan? Firstly, to make their party electable (A crucial difference to an idealistic view...) and then to make a beneficial difference to the United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland?

A fair point, but they are in power, no chances are being blown by them. This is about Labour's own struggle for either political relevance or standing by their principles. There seems to be a fundamental clash. The Conservative Government on the other hand compromised by going into Coalition.... then scored a majority.

But it was due to the Prawn sandwich brigade who had something to gain from 'New' Labour that let them in during the 90's in the first place. How can you blow a chance if you had to betray your very principles to get it in the first place?

All political parties would do that if they felt it necessary "Something that all political parties has experienced moments of," that was my point and hence why I see this as a massive deal for democracy and the UK in general. And bless you CB Fry for the kit sarcasm. Just shows, you can fluke your way to a result..... there's hope for Liz Kendal yet!

Fundamentally this. But the labour leadership contest presents the first time where anyone can sign in and sway a party membership election. £3, step right up! It has opened things up massively and all of a sudden a party establishment is being torn apart by those who they previously relied on support for. Even allowing for interlopers and invaders it's...... just astonishing. So, is the 'will of the people' for a deeply left wing Labour party..... or for it's destruction through civil war? Labour opened itself up to the goodwill of the electorate. Ed Milliband may have done a better job of destroying Labour more then any Lord or right wing nutter could ever personally have dreamt of doing themselves. It's incredible.

I am Conservative (yeah, sure you havn't forgotten....) but I see Jeremy Corbyn's potential election as labour leader as hopefully a watershed moment in British democracy. It will highlight a critical hypocrisy in frontline politics and critically the Labour party.... an organisation that carries critical political influence but would happily ignore the will of the people if the powers that be feel they know better. Something that all parties have experienced moments of and something that deeply shaped my own political view during Tony Blair's premiership. What happens now is of massive importance to our country's future. It's rather exciting.

And that is why he will get in..... and that is also why he is damned. The political system in this country is made up of people who's own beliefs have been compromised in the search of influence and power. He will be the hipsters/idealists choice, and the lamb to the slaughter. Regardless of his intelligence, articulated manner and standing, he will be trying to reshape the system that doesn't want him, he will be the Tory trying to organise the NHS, the liberal in Thanet, the socialist in Winchester. He will open many cans of worms..... and he will clearly be delighted about that. Yet he will not be credible...... even in the eyes of his own party.