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I don't think Mansfield will let him go.

Well then include all the games after the first 9 nil.

Bollocks. One good half, one average half. Two good goals and one shit penalty given and one shit penalty not given. Fine lines.

Yes because he's the only person who could do that. I'm not bothered but it's strange that you mention Carny but not the omnipresent Shearer.

And Shearer

Got to be pleased with that half, another goal would have been the cherry. Wolves come strong in the second half and we are shit at holding on to leads, so an early goal would be nice.

Exactly, people aren't being conditioned to think the same way, there are thousands of different views out there. People like stuff from one person and ignore the shit from the same person. People have a set of values and positions on a vast range of subjects and they seek like minded opinions to amplify their views I'm certain that peoples view change overtime, just like they always have. This notion that some people only think what they are told to and are trapped into fixed thoughts by having to continually virtue signal on social media is rubbish. So is the idea that it's only left wing liberals on social media signally. How come the 'free thinkers' are generally right wing and all think the same kind of stuff.

But Twitter is full of different opinions. Whenever I've looked there's loads of right wing stuff, left wing stuff, climate evangelists, conspiracy theorists, cats, dogs, everything. So is social media conditioning everyone in different ways. There isn't a agreed Twitter position is there?

He wasn't, his 75 million votes says he's not a busted flush, hence why the Republicans who had the chance to put clear water between themselves and Trump didn't. They want those votes in the midterms, and the Republicans in Trump areas need that connection to fundraise. The Dems knew which way Republicans were leaning when McCarthy went to Maralargo to kiss Trumps ring. But Trumps behaviour was so bad they had to try and sanction it somehow, it was worse than the Ukraine affair. So they had no choice despite the knowledge they knew it would fail but in the hope it does some damage. The calculation, I guess, is that the floating voters and the institutionalists remain put off by it all, so that the Republicans then have to dig up more Republican supporters who don't normally vote. And the only way to do this is to give a greater voice to the loony libertarians.

Surely everyone must think they are on the right side of the argument (apart from the floaters in the middle of course). So everyone must display self righteous superiority then. How does twitter get people to say things, I'm pretty clueless about Twitter.

It was just a numbers game, the Democrats didn't have the numbers and the Republicans that may have swung behind it didn't have the numbers back home. It's a shit system that can't reprimand Trump for his damaging post election behaviour. The Dems knew the numbers, but they had to do it, Trumps behaviour easily passed the unimpeachable bar. I believe that the double downing of the Republicans and an invigorated Trump will do more damage to to the Republican party in the long term. At the moment the party belongs to the looney libertarians.

It's not just a choice between one or the other. Anyway he can learn from this knock back, let's see how he responds.

I see Klopp was saying afterwards that offside isn't objective, I'm glad this view is starting to get traction. There is a margin where VAR can not call it and this has to be acknowledged.

My old man was similar, he was Plymouth Argyle, he took me to The Dell for a few reserve games in the 70's probably againt Plymouth. But never took me to a real match (other than hundreds of Argyle games), we then moved away. So my first Dell game proper was 1996, the last game of the season, got a ticket outside, nil nil draw against Wimbledon, enough to stay up. Disappointed that there was no pitch invasion. Only ever made it to a handful of games there. Moving to St Mary's was brilliant for us ex pats with little local connections. Chatting to my dad before he died, we talked about going to football when I was a kid and we got on to why he never took me to a Saints games. He grew up in Southampton as a Plymouth fan, he now had dementia and his speech was impoverished, I asked him if he actually liked Southampton, his face lit up with a big smile and said "I've hated them all my life" 🤣

So we can conclude that this is a cross party issues, some on the left and the right demand clear guidance and exit plans and some on the left and right don't. Everyone can stop google searching for links now and go back to tiktox, it's friday afternoon after all.

Only Saints Web could have an argument over the word 'important'. Stopping the PL slide, beating a peer team at home and rebuilding some confidence would be lovely.

There was some Suffolk tourist board chap yesterday on the radio saying his industry needs certainty moving forward, as if the last year didn't teach him anything. No one can give that certainty. Irritants will start demanding 'roadmaps' soon.

I bet there aren't many Brentford fans complaining at the moment, their best period of football in my 45 years of following football. And the new ground, modest in size (17500) is a stones throw from Griffin Park.

I remember it so well, my mum was waiting for me outside of school, which was unusual. She had driven over to tell me about Keegan, I dismissed it and all the way home I insisted that she must have heard it wrong and it would have been Kevin Keelan, the ageing Norwich keeper. My mum's gone now and it remains a brilliant memory.

Well that makes up for the Newcastle result.

People who work through their lunch break, get a life. Either work smarter and relax or care a bit less and relax.

Desparate. A meaningless unfunny comedy name, a string a ramdon quotes from at least 8 years ago and something about the politics of envy. Must have missed the Osborne and Wharton trough posts.

Refs are bad enough, they can't help strut their self importance, thinking their superior knowledge of the laws is the only thing that matters in the game. There are to the game what parish councillors are to civil society. And VAR being run by other refs amplifies them, its just cunts squared.

I get that the reverse mirroring is a complete double wanker sign in the face. And then not getting the goal when they were down to 10 then 9 is really disappointing but the 9-nil is something else. That third goal was a complete kick in the balls, which made it really hard for an average team playing badly to come back.

That severely minimise's the 9-0 and catastrophises today's result. Currently we aren't that much better than Newcastle to make today's result worse than the 9-0.